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when learning Turkish.....
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 11:20 pm |
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When I listened to "Duydum ki Unutmussun" by Muazzez Ersoy, that was the exact moment when I said to myself "Hey, I want to learn this beautiful language!" so I believe you apayri, no turkish boyfriend involved either  although if I had one , I'd make a faster progress!!! hehe
As for learning turkish, you need :
AZIM
Sabir
Pratik
Good luck!!!!!!
Dilara.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:06 pm |
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Quoting Dilara: When I listened to "Duydum ki Unutmussun" by Muazzez Ersoy, that was the exact moment when I said to myself "Hey, I want to learn this beautiful language!" |
Hi Dilara,
Interesting!
Muazzez Ersoy released albums called starting Nostalji-1 upto
Nostalji-12 I believe (may be more, I am not sure).
She sang mostly Turkish Art Music (Türk sanat müziği) songs and some covers by Orhan Gencebay and Barış Manço for example.
I bought 2 cds of that serie and I have the mp3s of the albums 1 to 12.
Some of her songs found their places in my favourites list of course:
Aşkın kanunu (Law of love)
Artık sevmeyeceğim (I will never fall in love again)
Agora meyhanesi
İntizar
Bir garip yolcuyum hayat yolunda
İkimiz bir fidanın güller açan dalıyız
Can bedenden çıkmayınca (Barış Manço song)
Bir teselli ver (Orhan Gencebay song)
If you like "duydum ki unutmuşsun" that much, you might like those above as well.
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30 Sep 2007 Sun 11:55 pm |
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Thank you so much for your recommendations si++ !
I'll definitely take them into consideration because I like Muazzez Ersoy very very much! and Turkish Art Music as well...
What other singers with a similar style would you recommend me to listen to?
By the way my favorite song by her at the moment is "Soyleyin yildizlar"
Selamlar!
Dilara
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| 24. |
01 Oct 2007 Mon 07:53 am |
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Quoting Dilara: Thank you so much for your recommendations si++ !
I'll definitely take them into consideration because I like Muazzez Ersoy very very much! and Turkish Art Music as well...
What other singers with a similar style would you recommend me to listen to?
By the way my favorite song by her at the moment is "Soyleyin yildizlar"
Selamlar!
Dilara |
I am not that much into Turkish Art Music. But Muazzez' "Nostalji" serie is good.
I also like Yıldırım Gürses and of course Zeki Müren. I don't like Bülent Ersoy that much, (s)he has great voice but not for me.
Of course TRT (Turkish Radio Television) broadcasts a lot of Turkish Art Music programmes(both on the radio and TV), and they are nice to watch/listen to.
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07 Oct 2007 Sun 12:40 pm |
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Quoting bjk: Is it best/easiest to start with the vocab? Or to try and understand the gramma and the rules that come with it?
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I could not see any tricky at this tread, so I want to write something in my mind. These things are all "In my humble opinion"! I am not a teacher, for that reason, these things I will explain are not rules or something like that.
Turkish is a language full of suffixes. For that reason, although you learn many words, you cannot use them easily if you don't know the suffixes and the structures of them. But the suffixes are always made by looking the "Harmony" rules of Turkish. So that, vowel and consonant harmonies must be the first things you should learn.
After the harmonies, you can understand why the same suffix with different shapes, and you can realize the words if they have suffixes or not. If you don't see the suffix, generally you can't understand the root of the word, and cannot even look it up from the dictionary. Dictionaries can't have all the words with their suffixes.
Surely, sentence construction is very important. the each sentence member has a different suffix, so the order may change by the expression.
The tenses are also pretty different in Turkish, and you cannot use them as the translations from English directly. For example, (I think) there is no "present tense" in Turkish.
And the most important thing for language learning: Don't try to understand things by looking direct translations. The most suitable translations are those which have the same feelings, NOT the same words.
Never give up, never fear from making mistakes (look at bod  ). Otherwise, you cannot start talking because of this fear (this is also a general language learning method  )
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20 Oct 2007 Sat 04:40 am |
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When I lived in Turkey I had to try and speak the language but, at first, I never knew where the words started and ended. So, I started to look at the shop signs, shop windows, street signs, every sign practically and it helped me to know words so that when I heard them I could relate even if it was a longer version. So I started to speak what you might call "Pidgeon Turkish". Surprisingly the Turkish people were thrilled, even if I spoke without any grammar - they were happy that I was trying to speak their language. So I started to listen and one thing was sooo good to know in Turkish "ne demek?" don't know if that's spelled right but if it means "What does that mean?" Eventually you get to know the tenses and the grammar comes with it, go, going, went - gitmek - git(im) (gidiyorum = I am going) Giticektim (I will be going) like that. So if you just learn words that's okay - you will want to learn the grammar and it'll be easier then.Next get an easy book on how to speak that shows the translation also. You'll be fluent in Pidgeon Turkish before you know it. Don't quit. I still speak Turkish somewhat imperfectly, but I'm understood. AND I'm Irish, so I speak it with a brogue - he he he.... good luck with it.
Celtic Warrior-Cullen
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| 27. |
20 Oct 2007 Sat 08:47 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Hard and serious work...no other way.
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I agree!
For my first 2 years I spent as many hours a day as I could being with Turks, trying to understand what they said, looking words up in my dictionary etc.
THERE IS NO QUICK METHOD, NO QUICK FIX, NO MIRACULOUS WAY.
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20 Oct 2007 Sat 09:19 am |
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practice practice practice. Complete immersion works QUICKLY! I was able to follow some conversations on my 3rd trip in 1 1/2 years. After about 12 days of hearing nothing but Turkish, it started to happen, I somehow was catching enough key words to follow enough of the conversation that I could ask for clarification from my fiance. One time I even answered a Turkish girls question to us, My fiance just looked at me like "how did you know that?" I was just as suprised!
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