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1.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 05:13 pm

A conversation that I can imagine being quiet common (especially in our house!) might be:

Kahve istiyor musun?
Evet lütfen. Siyah kahve istiyorum.


Three questions:
1. Is it correct?
2. In a friendly situation would you say "do you want" or is there a more informal "would you like"?
3. In black coffee (without milk) "siyah kahve"?

2.       mltm
3690 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 05:26 pm

You did a good conversation, with no mistake. Well done.

Yes, in a friendly situation

"Kahve istiyor musun?" or "Kahve ister misin" (this one is used more for offers)

Yes, for black coffee it's siyah kahve, but as there're two kinds of coffees in Turkey, Turkish coffee and Nescafe,wWe usually use nescafe.

A usual conversation:

- Nescafe ister misin?
- Evet,lütfen. (Evet, isterim, sağol)
- Sütlü mü, sütsüz mü?
- Sütlü .
- Şekeri nasıl olsun?
- Şekerli/ orta / şekersiz.

3.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 05:49 pm

Quoting mltm:

A usual conversation:

- Nescafe ister misin?
- Evet,lütfen. (Evet, isterim, sağol)
- Sütlü mü, sütsüz mü?
- Sütlü .
- Şekeri nasıl olsun?
- Şekerli/ orta / şekersiz.



Teşekkürler!

But more questions of course

Nescafe ister misin?
Is the -er suffix the aorist tense or something else?

Şekeri nasıl olsun?
"How many sugars?"
Where does olsun come from?
Why not:
"kaç tane şeker?" or "ne kadar şeker?"

Şekerli/ orta / şekersiz
What does orta mean?

4.       mltm
3690 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 06:20 pm



Nescafe ister misin?
Is the -er suffix the aorist tense or something else?

Yes, aorist tense. For wishes it's mostly used. For example:
-Nereye gitmek istersin? Sinemaya mı, tiyatroya mı? Where do you want to go? To cinema or to theatre?
-Sinemaya gitmek isterim.


Şekeri nasıl olsun?
"How many sugars?"
Where does olsun come from?

Maybe it was not good to give this sentence, it confuses you. It's like "how about its sugar?"
olmak = to become,
Şekersiz olsun: let it be without sugar
I don't know how to express "olsun" in a question in english.

Why not:
"kaç tane şeker?" or "ne kadar şeker?"
Yes, these could be also but şekeri nasıl is preferred, because it may be without sugar too.

Şekerli/ orta / şekersiz
What does orta mean?
orta is average, middle. not with too much sugar, just average.

5.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 06:28 pm

Can the -li and -siz suffixes be applied to any noun to mean 'with' and 'without' or are they specific to only certain things?

Could I say:
bilgisiz gitiyorum
"I am going without knowledge"

6.       mltm
3690 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 07:33 pm

yes, I think it can be applied.

Bilgisiz is fine.

7.       deli
5904 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 07:44 pm

Quoting bod:

Can the -li and -siz suffixes be applied to any noun to mean 'with' and 'without' or are they specific to only certain things?

Could I say:
bilgisiz gitiyorum
"I am going without knowledge"

but bod git becomes gid because a vowel follows t so it changes to d gidiyorum = i am going

8.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 07:55 pm

Quoting deli:

but bod git becomes gid because a vowel follows t so it changes to d gidiyorum = i am going



Yes, of course it does!
I always forget about the consonant mutation rules

9.       deli
5904 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 07:57 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting deli:

but bod git becomes gid because a vowel follows t so it changes to d gidiyorum = i am going



Yes, of course it does!
I always forget about the consonant mutation rules

fark etmez bod cok guzel turkce konusuyorsun

10.       bod
5999 posts
 05 Jan 2006 Thu 08:04 pm

Quoting deli:

fark etmez bod cok guzel turkce konusuyorsun



Farketmek Bod, çok güzel Türkçe konuşuyorun

"To make a difference Bod you must very much like to talk in Turkish"

Is that about right?

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