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Görüşürüz + dative case?
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1.       Elisa
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 08 Jan 2006 Sun 04:31 pm

Merhaba

I learnt at school that you can say "yarın görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you tomorrow" but "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you next week". I wonder why the dative case is used with "hafta" and not with "yarın". When I google for "yarına görüşÃ¼rüz" or "akşama görüşÃ¼rüz", I get hits indeed, but far less than when I don't use the dative case. On the contrary, when I google for "hafta görüşÃ¼rüz" I get more hits than for "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz"!!?
I'm confused now. Can someone tell me if I have to teach my teacher a lesson?

Teşekkürler
Elisa

2.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 04:47 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Merhaba

I learnt at school that you can say "yarın görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you tomorrow" but "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you next week". I wonder why the dative case is used with "hafta" and not with "yarın". When I google for "yarına görüşÃ¼rüz" or "akşama görüşÃ¼rüz", I get hits indeed, but far less than when I don't use the dative case. On the contrary, when I google for "hafta görüşÃ¼rüz" I get more hits than for "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz"!!?
I'm confused now. Can someone tell me if I have to teach my teacher a lesson?

Teşekkürler
Elisa



when you say haftaya you refer next week. but when you say aksama and yarına there is no such thing... dont mix your mind if you ask me the suffix -a can be omitted from aksama and yarına there would be no meaning loss but you cant do this haftaya.. becoz hafta with itself doesnt refer anything..

3.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 04:48 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Can someone tell me if I have to teach my teacher a lesson?



you students are always do same whats wrong with your teachers

4.       Elisa
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 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:05 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting Elisa:

Merhaba

I learnt at school that you can say "yarın görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you tomorrow" but "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz" for "see you next week". I wonder why the dative case is used with "hafta" and not with "yarın". When I google for "yarına görüşÃ¼rüz" or "akşama görüşÃ¼rüz", I get hits indeed, but far less than when I don't use the dative case. On the contrary, when I google for "hafta görüşÃ¼rüz" I get more hits than for "haftaya görüşÃ¼rüz"!!?
I'm confused now. Can someone tell me if I have to teach my teacher a lesson?

Teşekkürler
Elisa



when you say haftaya you refer next week. but when you say aksama and yarına there is no such thing... dont mix your mind if you ask me the suffix -a can be omitted from aksama and yarına there would be no meaning loss but you cant do this haftaya.. becoz hafta with itself doesnt refer anything..



Hm, think I see the light now
So, you can say "yarına", it wouldn't be wrong, but you don't have to. But you can't do it with "hafta", because it has not a sense of time in it like "tonight" and "tomorrow" have.
I'll stay off my teacher's back then

Thanks!

5.       bod
5999 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:10 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

when you say haftaya you refer next week. but when you say aksama and yarına there is no such thing...



Do you mean that yarın doesn't need a suffix because it is already fully qualified as being 'tomorrow' where as hafta does need the suffix to specify which week???

6.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:11 pm

Quoting Elisa:


Hm, think I see the light now
So, you can say "yarına", it wouldn't be wrong, but you don't have to. But you can't do it with "hafta", because it has not a sense of time in it like "tonight" and "tomorrow" have.
I'll stay off my teacher's back then

Thanks!



Absolutely! yeah think that they had many hard ways to be a teacher this doesnt mean they dont do mistakes but language is not like math or physics..

7.       Elisa
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 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:25 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:


but language is not like math or physics..



Fortunately not

8.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:38 pm

Quoting bod:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

when you say haftaya you refer next week. but when you say aksama and yarına there is no such thing...



Do you mean that yarın doesn't need a suffix because it is already fully qualified as being 'tomorrow' where as hafta does need the suffix to specify which week???



there you go bod!

9.       Elisa
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 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:42 pm

I think this must be correct as well, and no use of dative case because you specify that it is next week:
"Gelecek hafta görüşÃ¼rüz" ?

10.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 08 Jan 2006 Sun 05:46 pm

Quoting Elisa:

I think this must be correct as well, and no use of dative case because you specify that it is next week:
"Gelecek hafta görüşÃ¼rüz" ?



True! you are getting ready for an A+

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