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1.       PamCoop
57 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:04 pm


2.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:06 pm

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give up girl... dont humiliate yourself more... be strong and move on your life!! as you still have time to live...

3.       PamCoop
57 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:08 pm

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?

4.       egyptian_tomb
318 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:15 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

...

give up girl... dont humiliate yourself more... be strong and move on your life!! as you still have time to live...



That was a cold and heartless thing to say to HER. I think she gets this and very well. But dont forget she is carrying his baby!!!!!!!

Hello! Besides she probably needs to say these things regardless of outcome.

I dont blame her and I wish I was better at translating cause I would tell her to PM me. So some cold hearted person with out feeling, wouldnt just simply tell her to not humiliate herself. Forget it?????

People have different stages of healing and this is what she needs to do.

Anyways Pam I am with you in spirit and just do what you have to do what ever that is to get thru this!

sincerely
Vivian

5.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:16 pm

Quoting PamCoop:

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?



i can never know... but i have lots of friends did... and guess what? they are now not with the guy they had those children with...
you would take your protections before you make it... now this is not the place to cry... i am sorry but the life is sometimes cruel and leaves you alone to make your OWN decisions... how many texts you send that guy... and you are still insisting...

anyway... i have helped you enough... but its really sad...
if you are gonna relieve you can shout at me... but even that guy accept you again... what he said to you will always remain as a bitter taste... so better move on...
i am sorry that i am the one to tell you this...

6.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:19 pm

Quoting PamCoop:

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?



What do you expect when you post your inner most problems on the internet? SuiGeneris was trying to be supportive.

7.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:19 pm

Quoting egyptian_tomb:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

...

give up girl... dont humiliate yourself more... be strong and move on your life!! as you still have time to live...



That was a cold and heartless thing to say to HER. I think she gets this and very well. But dont forget she is carrying his baby!!!!!!!

Hello! Besides she probably needs to say these things regardless of outcome.

I dont blame her and I wish I was better at translating cause I would tell her to PM me. So some cold hearted person with out feeling, wouldnt just simply tell her to not humiliate herself. Forget it?????

People have different stages of healing and this is what she needs to do.

Anyways Pam I am with you in spirit and just do what you have to do what ever that is to get thru this!

sincerely
Vivian



its not me who is cold hearted my friend... its life...
god may help her... i say nothing else... i just say her to be strong and depend her life for herself only... and if i were her... i would give a birth and somehow without that guy i would move on my life with my baby...
i would never think about abortion...

please... read the words carefully... not just what you think and what you want to express...

again.. god be with you girl...

8.       PamCoop
57 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:21 pm

Thank you very much for standing up for me. It means alot. I hope those who thinks i am stupid understands that I am alone in this, and I have no where else to turn for help.
Of course i am embarassed, I am alone here with a man that do not love me and a baby on the way. You ( suigeneris) can not even imagine how much it hurts letting people know my story like this. But i will go now, because apprently pepole have to pick on me anyway. Thanks for the help kind turkish class!

9.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:31 pm

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting PamCoop:

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?



i can never know... but i have lots of friends did... and guess what? they are now not with the guy they had those children with...
you would take your protections before you make it... now this is not the place to cry... i am sorry but the life is sometimes cruel and leaves you alone to make your OWN decisions... how many texts you send that guy... and you are still insisting...

anyway... i have helped you enough... but its really sad...
if you are gonna relieve you can shout at me... but even that guy accept you again... what he said to you will always remain as a bitter taste... so better move on...
i am sorry that i am the one to tell you this...



+1 Sui - I agree with this completely. However, it takes two to tango and I wish there was a child support programme that acted WORLDWIDE! He should support that child financially if NOTHING ELSE!

10.       ahalliwell
745 posts
 14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:44 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting PamCoop:

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?



i can never know... but i have lots of friends did... and guess what? they are now not with the guy they had those children with...
you would take your protections before you make it... now this is not the place to cry... i am sorry but the life is sometimes cruel and leaves you alone to make your OWN decisions... how many texts you send that guy... and you are still insisting...

anyway... i have helped you enough... but its really sad...
if you are gonna relieve you can shout at me... but even that guy accept you again... what he said to you will always remain as a bitter taste... so better move on...
i am sorry that i am the one to tell you this...



+1 Sui - I agree with this completely. However, it takes two to tango and I wish there was a child support programme that acted WORLDWIDE! He should support that child financially if NOTHING ELSE!



+1 i agree he should support child also , but then i would say that im a mum myself

11.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:11 am

Let me get this straight…you get pregnant with a guy you can’t even have a conversation with…come here and pour your story out for translation purposes….get help from Sui…and then get annoyed when he comments on the content of what he is being asked to translate?
It‘s rather naïve of you to post for the whole world to see and not anticipate commentary.
You would do yourself well to take his advice…it was spoken wisely and kindly.

12.       PamCoop
57 posts
 15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:16 am

yes you are right too. but i do not want to argue. i just ask for a translation. if you want to comment on how naiv and stupid i am - go ahead. And when something like this happens to people that dislike that i tell this here, imagine how it must feel for me to have no one to help me....

now people help me here - thank you all so much!
But i get very upset when someone says im humiliatin myself etc.

13.       Leelu
1746 posts
 15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:55 am

Quoting ahalliwell:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting SuiGeneris:

Quoting PamCoop:

i did not ask for a comment on this. just help. i know this already. but can you even imagine how i feel right this moment? have you ever made a abortion?



i can never know... but i have lots of friends did... and guess what? they are now not with the guy they had those children with...
you would take your protections before you make it... now this is not the place to cry... i am sorry but the life is sometimes cruel and leaves you alone to make your OWN decisions... how many texts you send that guy... and you are still insisting...

anyway... i have helped you enough... but its really sad...
if you are gonna relieve you can shout at me... but even that guy accept you again... what he said to you will always remain as a bitter taste... so better move on...
i am sorry that i am the one to tell you this...



+1 Sui - I agree with this completely. However, it takes two to tango and I wish there was a child support programme that acted WORLDWIDE! He should support that child financially if NOTHING ELSE!



+1 i agree he should support child also , but then i would say that im a mum myself


+1 I also believe that there should be some financial support .. after all .. it took 2 to tango .. right or wrong etc really doesn't matter at this point, its all just symantics anyway.

14.       maria/mesut
479 posts
 15 Sep 2007 Sat 09:12 am

What has happened is past. There is no point of blaming this girl for it now. It takes 2 to make a child.
I feel so sorry for you Pam, and wish i was able to translate your texts.
She doesn`t ask for your comments, about what has happened. This is already reality and now she needs help for translation.
If anyone should be blamed at this stage - it`s definately the boy. How can you be so cruel when someone is caring your child? At least he should try to be supportive as this is something none of them wish.
Pam is just trying to figure out what to do and how to make the best desicion for her and the baby as the father are letting them down.

I wish you all the best - if you need someone to talk to i`m sure there are many you can send a PM. Included me.
All the best in the future.
Good luck with your desicion. You`re right - nobody can imagine what yoù`re going through

15.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:54 pm

All I say is, maybe you should think twice about abortion. I dont know how you accidenatlly got pregnant, but if there's a chance it could be your own responsibility, then maybe you should take your responsibility. If you have enough financial (and mental) support from whomever, maybe a baby could be the most beautiful thing he has ever given to you and something to close this relationship down.

Im not saying that it is good for a child to grow up fatherless in a situation where the mummy works too hard for the money. But if you think you could pull it through, abortion may not be the best option. İt is a decision one can never turn back, and one that many people regret later.

16.       egyptian_tomb
318 posts
 16 Sep 2007 Sun 02:45 am

Quoting maria/mesut:

What has happened is past. There is no point of blaming this girl for it now. It takes 2 to make a child.
I feel so sorry for you Pam, and wish i was able to translate your texts.
She doesn`t ask for your comments, about what has happened. This is already reality and now she needs help for translation.
If anyone should be blamed at this stage - it`s definately the boy. How can you be so cruel when someone is caring your child? At least he should try to be supportive as this is something none of them wish.
Pam is just trying to figure out what to do and how to make the best desicion for her and the baby as the father are letting them down.

I wish you all the best - if you need someone to talk to i`m sure there are many you can send a PM. Included me.
All the best in the future.
Good luck with your desicion. You`re right - nobody can imagine what yoù`re going through



Exactly how I feel too!

Thanks for speaking up!

Again Pam PM me anytime.

17.       ahalliwell
745 posts
 16 Sep 2007 Sun 03:25 am

Quoting egyptian_tomb:

Quoting maria/mesut:

What has happened is past. There is no point of blaming this girl for it now. It takes 2 to make a child.
I feel so sorry for you Pam, and wish i was able to translate your texts.
She doesn`t ask for your comments, about what has happened. This is already reality and now she needs help for translation.
If anyone should be blamed at this stage - it`s definately the boy. How can you be so cruel when someone is caring your child? At least he should try to be supportive as this is something none of them wish.
Pam is just trying to figure out what to do and how to make the best desicion for her and the baby as the father are letting them down.

I wish you all the best - if you need someone to talk to i`m sure there are many you can send a PM. Included me.
All the best in the future.
Good luck with your desicion. You`re right - nobody can imagine what yoù`re going through



Exactly how I feel too!

Thanks for speaking up!

Again Pam PM me anytime.



well i am hoping with the help of my friends ect that what she wanted has been said and the lad knows how she is feeling right now

18.       alameda
3499 posts
 18 Sep 2007 Tue 08:31 am

Dear Pam,

Life moves on. However painful it is now, the pain will pass and you will have wonderful days in the future. Now that seems impossible, but all things pass. Close your eyes and imagine your most happy day, then realize more happy days coming.

One doesn't really have a lot of control over who they love. Nobody can call you stupid for falling in love. If you decide to go through to the birth of a baby, you probably will find a much greater love. If you don't, other doors will also open.

If you do give birth, in the years to come, you can be sure he will in the future regret his loss.

It's painful, it's very hard, but you can do it. Learn the lesson and try to be more careful in the future.


Quoting PamCoop:

yes you are right too. but i do not want to argue. i just ask for a translation. if you want to comment on how naiv and stupid i am - go ahead. And when something like this happens to people that dislike that i tell this here, imagine how it must feel for me to have no one to help me....

now people help me here - thank you all so much!
But i get very upset when someone says im humiliatin myself etc.

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