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What is your opinion on this article?
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:48 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: shut up, you british communist!
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr facist please 
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 08:51 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: shut up, you british communist!
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr facist please |
why? UK is communist!
oh, but there are hidden fascists!
right, a fascist!
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 10:13 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: ...Yes...at least in my place of work. |
Alameda I would NEVER doubt your word. However, I do find it hard to believe that any muslim would be happy to remove the religious aspect of their day and call it simply a "holiday party" in order to celebrate it with you.
I think, perhaps, they would include you in their religious day, but they would not change the name of it or remove the religious aspects.
I hope you prove me wrong!  |
Ok, AEnigma, at my place of employment, we know it's whatever religous or national holiday it is, but nobody is forced to partake in any religous aspect of the holiday. They get treats associated with the holiday....things like great food and time to schmooze with each other.
We have also had Cinco De Mayo, Indian Independance celebrations...feasts...(yum yum) Those persons who were from those particular backgrounds shared the holiday with others. I hope I'm explaining this well.
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07 Nov 2007 Wed 10:49 pm |
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I am for celebrating ALL holidays with equal zeal...and a paid day off!!
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 05:43 pm |
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Interesting, since we are multi-culture in the work place. However, companies in the U.S. do not give them specific holidays designed around their religon to Jews, Muslims etc.. If they request time off, most do accomadate. However you will not find this on any companies holiday calandar as the standard days off.
Here is what I also find interesting..In some religions they do not celebrate Christmas or do gift exchanges. But they have no problem receiving gifts.. But have a problem with the giving part.. 
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 06:58 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: But they have no problem receiving gifts.. But have a problem with the giving part.. |
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 07:05 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: But they have no problem receiving gifts.. But have a problem with the giving part.. |
Are you talking about dudu's again?
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 08:30 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Interesting, since we are multi-culture in the work place. However, companies in the U.S. do not give them specific holidays designed around their religon to Jews, Muslims etc.. If they request time off, most do accomadate. However you will not find this on any companies holiday calandar as the standard days off.
Here is what I also find interesting..In some religions they do not celebrate Christmas or do gift exchanges. But they have no problem receiving gifts.. But have a problem with the giving part.. |
I find it interesting that you have such experiences. Maybe it's just that some do not inspire generosity. As for what I've seen, there generosity exists in all parts.
In fact the most generous people I've seen are in Muslim countries. Generosity is a very highly esteemed virtue.
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 08:41 pm |
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Regarding generosity in Islam....
GENEROSITY
"Give of the good things which ye have (honorably) earned, and of the fruits of the earth which We have produced for you." (2:267)
"If ye disclose (acts of) charity, even so it is well, but if ye conceal them, and make them reach those (really) in need, that is best for you ." (2:271)
"By no means shall ye attain righteousness unless ye give (freely) of that which ye love." (3:92)
"Those saved from the covetousness of their own souls, they are the ones that achieve prosperity." (59:9)
"[Do not] expect, in giving, any increase (for thyself)!" (74:6)
Virtues of Islam
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 08:47 pm |
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Alameda on reading your posts again today, I dont think you quite got the point I was making.
You said that in your office you have a "Holiday Party" instead of a Christmas party. This word of "holiday" instead of Christmas is what concerns me.
If you choose to live in a multi-cultural society then that means you accept and respect all other religions. If this is the case, why do we have to change the name of our national religious celebration to suit other religions?
You said that the muslims, hindus etc invited you to join in their celebrations..BUT...the main difference is that they did not change the name of those celebrations or make them non-religious. You were invited to join in, and respect their holy days.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY can't we do the same with OUR religious holidays?
(PS I dont think anyone can say that Muslims are any more generous than other people. If people do something just because it is in their holy book, then it is not from the heart. Many people with no religion whatsoever give generously and regularly to the poor, unfortunate and disadvantaged)
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 11:20 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Regarding generosity in Islam....
GENEROSITY
"Give of the good things which ye have (honorably) earned, and of the fruits of the earth which We have produced for you." (2:267)
"If ye disclose (acts of) charity, even so it is well, but if ye conceal them, and make them reach those (really) in need, that is best for you ." (2:271)
"By no means shall ye attain righteousness unless ye give (freely) of that which ye love." (3:92)
"Those saved from the covetousness of their own souls, they are the ones that achieve prosperity." (59:9)
"[Do not] expect, in giving, any increase (for thyself)!" (74:6)
Virtues of Islam |
im sorry but i rush to inform you that muslims actually not a charity people at all.
as an example take the world charity shares, and you will see that muslim countries do not rush with the help to the regions of poverty. it is usually known that muslims help muslims, usually. but even in this case it doesnt work properly, looking at many many poor muslim countries.
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