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08 Nov 2007 Thu 11:20 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Regarding generosity in Islam....
GENEROSITY
"Give of the good things which ye have (honorably) earned, and of the fruits of the earth which We have produced for you." (2:267)
"If ye disclose (acts of) charity, even so it is well, but if ye conceal them, and make them reach those (really) in need, that is best for you ." (2:271)
"By no means shall ye attain righteousness unless ye give (freely) of that which ye love." (3:92)
"Those saved from the covetousness of their own souls, they are the ones that achieve prosperity." (59:9)
"[Do not] expect, in giving, any increase (for thyself)!" (74:6)
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im sorry but i rush to inform you that muslims actually not a charity people at all.
as an example take the world charity shares, and you will see that muslim countries do not rush with the help to the regions of poverty. it is usually known that muslims help muslims, usually. but even in this case it doesnt work properly, looking at many many poor muslim countries.
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08 Nov 2007 Thu 11:23 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Alameda on reading your posts again today, I dont think you quite got the point I was making.
You said that in your office you have a "Holiday Party" instead of a Christmas party. This word of "holiday" instead of Christmas is what concerns me.
If you choose to live in a multi-cultural society then that means you accept and respect all other religions. If this is the case, why do we have to change the name of our national religious celebration to suit other religions?
You said that the muslims, hindus etc invited you to join in their celebrations..BUT...the main difference is that they did not change the name of those celebrations or make them non-religious. You were invited to join in, and respect their holy days.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY can't we do the same with OUR religious holidays? 
(PS I dont think anyone can say that Muslims are any more generous than other people. If people do something just because it is in their holy book, then it is not from the heart. Many people with no religion whatsoever give generously and regularly to the poor, unfortunate and disadvantaged) |
alameda has a problem with understanding.
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:16 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Alameda on reading your posts again today, I dont think you quite got the point I was making.
You said that in your office you have a "Holiday Party" instead of a Christmas party. This word of "holiday" instead of Christmas is what concerns me.
If you choose to live in a multi-cultural society then that means you accept and respect all other religions. If this is the case, why do we have to change the name of our national religious celebration to suit other religions?
You said that the muslims, hindus etc invited you to join in their celebrations..BUT...the main difference is that they did not change the name of those celebrations or make them non-religious. You were invited to join in, and respect their holy days.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY can't we do the same with OUR religious holidays?
(PS I dont think anyone can say that Muslims are any more generous than other people. If people do something just because it is in their holy book, then it is not from the heart. Many people with no religion whatsoever give generously and regularly to the poor, unfortunate and disadvantaged) |
You see AEnigma....perhaps we have a different perspective because Brittan has a national religion called the Church of England? The US does not, and never had an official state religion. There are some who would like to claim it's a Christian nation, that is not true.
In some places, like New York City, many places close down for the Jewish holidays. In my place of work, I don't think there are very many Christians here, so to say OUR religious holidays, I have to say just who are the OUR you talking abut? It reminds me of the Lone Ranger and Tonto "what do you mean "we" white man?"
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:19 am |
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Quoting alameda: You see AEnigma....perhaps we have a different perspective because Brittan has a national religion called the Church of England? The US does not, and never had an official state religion. There are some who would like to claim it's a Christian nation, that is not true.
In some places, like New York City, many places close down for the Jewish holidays. In my place of work, I don't think there are very many Christians here, so to say OUR religious holidays, I have to say just who are the OUR you talking abut? It reminds me of the Lone Ranger and Tonto "what do you mean "we" white man?" |
Well, I had forgotten you dont have a national religion  However, it doesn't change anything. It seems you have to remove the religious aspect from Christmas, whereas the other religions simply invite you to observe/join in their religious days.
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:21 am |
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Quoting alameda:
You see AEnigma....perhaps we have a different perspective because Brittan has a national religion called the Church of England? The US does not, and never had an official state religion. There are some who would like to claim it's a Christian nation, that is not true.
In some places, like New York City, many places close down for the Jewish holidays. In my place of work, I don't think there are very many Christians here, so to say OUR religious holidays, I have to say just who are the OUR you talking abut? It reminds me of the Lone Ranger and Tonto "what do you mean "we" white man?" |
alameda
dont tell crappy false stories!
USA is known for being much more christian than the whole europe together!
seriously, you know nothing about UK nor other EU countries.
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:52 am |
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Quoting alameda: because Brittan has a national religion called the Church of England |
Ouhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
I hope Joey is not watching - he would be very angry to hear you say that Britain has the Church of England!!! Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have different religions. The Church of England is only in England 
Following your comment about the USA I found this on Wikipedia which is really interesting! I guess the USA is not as multi-cultural as I thought!!
"Most Americans adhere to Christianity. According to the 2001 American Religious Identification Survey (discussed below), 80% of the U.S. is Christian and 15% do not adhere to a religion. Other religions comprise 5% of the U.S. population"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 11:19 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting alameda: because Brittan has a national religion called the Church of England |
Ouhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I hope Joey is not watching - he would be very angry to hear you say that Britain has the Church of England!!! Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have different religions. The Church of England is only in England
Following your comment about the USA I found this on Wikipedia which is really interesting! I guess the USA is not as multi-cultural as I thought!!
"Most Americans adhere to Christianity. According to the 2001 American Religious Identification Survey (discussed below), 80% of the U.S. is Christian and 15% do not adhere to a religion. Other religions comprise 5% of the U.S. population"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States |
For someone who claims to be Agnostic, you dun alf go on a lot about Religion! 
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:40 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
For someone who claims to be Agnostic, you dun alf go on a lot about Religion! |
awwwwwwwwwwww
did you squeeze a whole lemon into your drink (whatever you drink) this morning? 
btw, how about checking out your own knowledge?
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:42 pm |
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Quoting libralady: For someone who claims to be Agnostic, you dun alf go on a lot about Religion! |
Why do you find that so strange?
I am not athiest, I am agnostic and therefore very interested in all religions
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09 Nov 2007 Fri 12:43 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting libralady:
For someone who claims to be Agnostic, you dun alf go on a lot about Religion! |
awwwwwwwwwwww
did you squize a whole lemon into your drink (whatever you drink) this morning?
btw, how about checking out your own knowledge? |
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