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Turkish military authorised for cross-border offensive
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1.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:20 pm

Any news updates on this?

I see that, contrary to previous assumptions, the US and Turkey will share intelligence during operations.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=90136

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:35 pm

Who would ever believe any piece of intelligence from Americans...Turks have their own sources...

3.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:36 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Who would ever believe any piece of intelligence from Americans...Turks have their own sources...



I wonder why they bothered to get agreement from George Bush to share it then

4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:38 pm

Do you expect intelligence from Bush?.....No way !

5.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:39 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Do you expect intelligence from Bush?.....No way !



Certainly not from the man himself
Turkey is not above doing deals with him though

6.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:42 pm

7.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:45 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

all cheap talk....dont ever trust this war monger!!



I agree. Unfortunately no country has principles enough to be above making money or doing deals with the US that are advantageous to themselves.

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:47 pm

There is no deal...Deals require mutual trust...

Ask PKK, if USA can be trusted

9.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:48 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

There is no deal...Deals require mutual trust...



So the Turkish News article is wrong?

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 08:58 pm

Noo, discussions as you mention did take place..
Political, face saving talks/articles will follow..

But, Turks know better now !

11.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:03 pm

I am rather concerned then. Turkish news have mentioned this 'deal' twice and have quoted your prime minister as saying these things.

TURKISH NEWS SHOULD BE SUED for these outright lies! Call Mr. Erdogan immediately Alpha! - I am sure you have his number on your phone - speed dial 1

'The prime minister confirmed that the “real time intelligence sharing” has started with the United States after a deal he made with U.S. President George W. Bush on Nov. 5. “We have started to a joint work in a coherent way,” he added.

Top U.S. generals visited Ankara last week to discuss the technical details of the intelligence sharing mechanism. Military officials of the two countries agreed on establishing a joint intelligence center to accelerate the process '

12.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:06 pm



Quoting AlphaF:

But, Turks know better now !

13.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:07 pm

You are confusing issues...I do not think Turks will reject any intelligence offered by USA...Whether or not such intelligence will be trusted is another matter.

I think Turks will basically operate on their own intelligence, if they operate at all.

14.       AEnigma III
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 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:10 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

You are confusing issues...I do not think Turks will reject any intelligence offered by USA...Whether or not such intelligence will be trusted is another matter.

I think Turks will basically operate on their own intelligence, if they operate at all.



OK Alpha I don't believe there was any confusion. The Turkish government has said that the shared intelligence will speed up the process.

I agree US intelligence cannot be trusted. Didn't they once believe Iraq had weapons of mass distruction lol lol lol

However, it is rather amusing to see Turkey in "deals" with them

15.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:11 pm

16.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:14 pm

Something funny that some of you may already know.

Write "French military victories" in Google Search machine and let it search.

The first item that will appear among all the entries found may make you smile..

17.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:15 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

Dance, Pandora, dance

Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq opened a Pandora's box that only now starts to be seen for its true incendiary potential. Turkey threatening to strike Iraq to protect its national security is a carbon copy of Bush invading Iraq in 2003. Moreover, "Iraq" is actually no more; it's been smashed into three virtually independent statelets - exactly what Israel wanted in the first place.

Israel is so keen on an independent Iraqi Kurdistan because this is the way towards a new Kirkuk-Haifa oil pipeline (the old one was shut down in 1948) - which will pass though three American bases and cross US-friendly Jordan. A complicating factor is that at the same time Tel Aviv avidly coddles racist, Kurd-hating Turkish generals.

Turkey badly needs oil, as much as Israel. Turkey most of all cannot stand an independent Iraqi Kurdistan because it is focused on Mosul and Kirkuk's oil wealth. For any Turk with an Ottoman Empire memory, Mosul's oil fields, only 120km from the border, should belong to Turkey; after all they were stolen by the British Empire as it drew the artificial borders of Iraq in the early 1920s.



Very true. How many lives have been lost for oil? Those who stand and criticise find that their own countries are no better.

18.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:30 pm

Quoting AlphaF:

Something funny that some of you may already know.

Write "French military victories" in Google Search machine and let it search.

The first item that will appear among all the entries found may make you smile..



There used to be another great Google glitch. If you typed "miserable failure" into Google, it would come up with George Bush's biography

Unfortunately someone fixed it now

19.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:33 pm

.....I believe it stemmed from this (unfortunate) picture

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushmiserablefailure.htm

20.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:42 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting AlphaF:

Something funny that some of you may already know.

Write "French military victories" in Google Search machine and let it search.

The first item that will appear among all the entries found may make you smile..



There used to be another great Google glitch. If you typed "miserable failure" into Google, it would come up with George Bush's biography

Unfortunately someone fixed it now



Hmmmmmm I typed that in and pressed I'm feeling lucky and got this:

"Did you mean: french military defeats"

Tried again with just regular Google and got this:

french military victoriesYour search - french military victories - did not match any documents. Suggestions:. - Make sure all words are spelled correctly. - Try different keywords. ...

21.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:49 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

.....I believe it stemmed from this (unfortunate) picture

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushmiserablefailure.htm



Argh...... funny to you....you don't live with it....have your taxes go to it... I want peace and sanity, compassion, real conservation...

Why are those who squander resources called Conservative?

22.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 09:51 pm

I can offer no compensation Alameda. We have a so-called LABOUR government who recently cut income tax for everyone....except the lowest paid. The lowest paid people actually have to pay MORE.

Labour have become the new Conservative. Conservative have become the new laughing stock...

23.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Dec 2007 Sun 10:35 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I can offer no compensation Alameda. We have a so-called LABOUR government who recently cut income tax for everyone....except the lowest paid. The lowest paid people actually have to pay MORE.

Labour have become the new Conservative. Conservative have become the new laughing stock...



At least you have health care! You have no idea how it is here. It's a national disgrace. You "could" (maybe)get healthcare, but you can end up a slave to the medical, pharma interests. I have seen some like that....what ever they earn goes to pay their medical bills......and that is even with private health insurance.

24.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 12:09 am

somebody played a prank on the french

http://www.google-watch.org/newsday.htmlAm I slow or did someone already suss this?


25.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 04 Dec 2007 Tue 12:22 am

sorry typo on previous post

http://www.google-watch.org/newsday.html Am I slow or did someone already suss this?


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