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IRAN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS-BUSH
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 04:28 pm |
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 04:40 pm |
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Quoting excalibur89: It is not only the U.S.A and Israel that do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Do you really think Iraq and Turkey would feel comfortable with Iran having such weapons at their disposal? Especially since The leader of Iran is blinded by his religion.
I sit back and laugh when the leader of Iran puffs his chest out, He should ask Muammar Quadafi, Manuel Noriega, and Saddam Hussein what it is like to threaten the U.S.A.
We did not Take over Libya,We did not take over panama, and we have not taken over Iraq, The Iraqi government is slowly showing the world how much better life is without a butcher like saddam hussein.Make no mistake about it we will not and cannot tolerate radical leaders of ANY religion.
So for those who believe that the U.S.A. is anti Islam you are extremly wrong, The U.S.A embraces muslims as it does believers of all faiths.
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Welcome to Turkish Class, I already like you. 
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 04:43 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Catwoman, I honestly think your attidude will soon leave you out of all discussions here...People do not like insults here, and you dont have a single intellectual clue, do you? |
I was starting to think the same thing Omega, but not about catwoman...maybe you also need to reflect...
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 05:44 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting AlphaF: Catwoman, I honestly think your attidude will soon leave you out of all discussions here...People do not like insults here, and you dont have a single intellectual clue, do you? |
I was starting to think the same thing Omega, but not about catwoman...maybe you also need to reflect... |
The belief that you are the only intelligent and worthy person to discuss issues is a sign of dellusional thinking...I think there is medicine for it.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:29 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: .......The belief that you are the only intelligent and worthy person to discuss issues is a sign of dellusional thinking...I think there is medicine for it. |
Mmmm Elisabeth, exactly to whom were you addressing your comment AlphaF or catwoman? It is confusing.
I think if people include some source material, it's a good idea. Also, if the source material is as neutral as possible, it's even better. At least, that's what I always try to do.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:36 pm |
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Quoting alameda: Quoting Elisabeth: .......The belief that you are the only intelligent and worthy person to discuss issues is a sign of dellusional thinking...I think there is medicine for it. |
Mmmm Elisabeth, exactly to whom were you addressing your comment AlphaF or catwoman? It is confusing.
I think if people include some source material, it's a good idea. Also, if the source material is as neutral as possible, it's even better. At least, that's what I always try to do. |
It was for Alpha, but it was a joke...I have no source material...I write my own jokes...apparently to my detriment, in some cases.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 08:53 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: You have an amazing historical knowledge and an 'interesting way of interpretation of history' femme..
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OMG  look what you ve written?!
Quoting thehandsom:
First of all vietnam.. Of course the reason was the cold war.
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yet again, handsome i send you back to read the origins of this indochina war. who supported north and who supported south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
Quoting thehandsom:
But who killed over 2.000.000 (2 MILLION) civilians (with napalms and etc)?
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nice try with numbers, but im here to correct you.
~900,000 to 4,000,000 killed: According to the Vietnam's Ministry of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs released figures on April 3, 1995, 2 million civilians in the north and 2 million in the south were killed between 1954 and 1975.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties#Vietnamese_civilians
seems like they havent agreed on numbers of casulties in that chaotic war.
this was the war between vietnamise themselves, initially.
this is not how you describe, that all the civillians were killed by US soldiers. knowing the mentality of the easterners, they easily sacrifice civilians, the ideology is above the human beings. so, let us not try to color things white and black.
Quoting thehandsom:
What can be a good excuse to kill civilians?
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are you talking about the wars? show me any war that didnt take the lives of civilians.
and i will tell you that turks didnt have to have a war or declare the war to exterminate the armenians, oops sorry, civilians quietly at home in a peacful march.
Quoting thehandsom:
Was it CCCP?
When Afghanistan was occupied after 9/11 was there a cold war? what was the excuse this time? I think over 10.000 people got killed (nobody counts the dead anyway)
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is this the actual number of those killed by allied coalition? you mean the talibs are peaceful sheep laid on a green grass?
i seem to read the statement from iraqbodycount? 
Quoting thehandsom:
What about Iraq? simply just wrong intelligence? as simple as that? 1.000.000 people got killed there and 4 million refugees!!
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what exactly do you know about the war? a million was killed as simple as you state from the bullets of allied soldiers?
what about suicide bombers? they sneak into crowd even into the mosques (oh, holy muslims) to blow up as many as they can and of course, whos to blame? USA! the WEST! israel!
what makes me really angry? the thing that nobody takes into account that most of the civilian casualties are the rseults of trained terrorists sent to iraq from all over the world. nobody gets angry with terrorists who kidnap and behead the innocent volunteers or journalists and blow up many crowds(countless losses), for this they have a short memory, but they keep moaning about abu graib jail incidents.
Quoting thehandsom:
About Israel..
Do you have an idea how many palestinian people got killed since 2000?
Look at the table:
Can you see the number of children killed since 2000?
119 israeli children to 971 palestinian
can you see the number of civilians killed there?
704 israeli to 2043 palestinian.
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wow! what a colorful chart! i kinda doubt about the site you source from.
i will try to find another web site for this.
Quoting thehandsom:
'israel never threatened any country, all it does is a defence. it has no choice'.
Do you really call this defence?
Who invaded Labenon? where are those settlers are occupying?
is Westbank part of israel? Are they legal?
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your arguments are as shallow as the bits and pieces from mass media.
Quoting thehandsom:
Do you know how many UN resolutions Israel did not comply?
List is here
Do you know how many UN resolutions Iraq did not comply?
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tell me how many?
an of course, palestine have agreed on all resolutions and multiplied terror orgs to comply the agreements sending the doves of peace to israel.
Quoting thehandsom:
'jews dont occupy illegally any place unlike ottomans who occupied the place for 400 years.'
Are you REALLY suggesting that creation of israel was legal?
Even BRITISH accepts it was a historical mistake!!
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i understand you try to impress me, but
i tell you a thing, theres no such a thing as a historical mistake. we can say of a political mistake, military mistake. whatever happent in the history is a history.
here, read some history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
Quoting thehandsom:
So Ottoman occupation was illegal but israel's is not? haha..
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hahaha let me laugh with you
israel's settlement was on all grounds legal, first mandated by great britain empire, second confirmed by UN. unlike ottoman occupation
Quoting thehandsom:
Well, with the same logic, america was occupied illegally too, so as australia..
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i have no further questions!
however, we think its super to live in america and australia today. all of us know the stories and admit the faults.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:41 pm |
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You keep me coming back to TC, Femme. Much wiser than some of the Oldbegs here.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 09:59 pm |
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Well written Handsome.
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06 Dec 2007 Thu 10:51 pm |
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"hahaha let me laugh with you israel's settlement was on all grounds legal, first mandated by great britain empire, second confirmed by UN. unlike ottoman occupation"
Who granted Great Britain the authority? Was it not "Might makes Right" ? What about the indiginous people? Do they not have rights too?
Anyway, is there really anything to be gained by going over the historic "right" of the creation of countries now in existance. The fact is, there is an Israel now, and there are still indiginous people who have not resolved their issues.
The continued confiscation of property, resources and the murder of Palestinians via extrajudicial execution is an abomnible practice that does nothing to foster the credibility and honour of the Israili people.
Israel's 'assassination policy'
Also in the link to the Grand Mufti...just who put him in place? He was after all the choice of Great Britain.
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07 Dec 2007 Fri 01:05 am |
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femme, I hope you are not a history teacher or a teacher tries to teach logic to students
Ok Ok
I will try to simplfy it for you (because I am getting quite dissapointed here)
Where is Vietnam? (in asia)
where is USA (in north america)?
What is the distance between USA and vietnam? (thousands of miles)
what do you call a country leaves from its own soil and lands on another country's soil with its army? (it is called invaders)
A simple logic here femme!! USA in that conflict is called the 'invading country'.
And the result of invasion is huge number of civilian dead. Millions of civilian deads.
You can not just say 'ah the real reason many died is eastern mentality' and get away with it!!
Even if you tell this to your childeren in a simply way, they will ask you ' ama ama mom, dont you think if USA army did not invade there would not be millions of civilians dead?'
I am sure when they learn how much napalm was used in that war and how many civilians burnt alive, they will ask more different questions!!
when it comes to Iraq war:
where is IRAQ? (in middle east)
where is USA ? (see above! )
what is the distance between usa and iraq (again thousand of miles)
Was Iraq a thread to europe or usa (not really, never!!)
what happened there usa? army invaded iraq.(then of course removed the army, removed the government)
The result of the invasion?( so far) 1 million dead.4 million displaced.
You can not say femme 'trained terrorists bombing everywhere, they are responsible' and get away with it.
Your childeren will turn around ask 'ama ama, if the usa army did not invade, there would not be 1 million dead and 4 million displaced'
And again, I am sure when they learn in depth, they will ask 'ama ama, is it true that shooting is not the only way to kill people? is it true that even before the invasion sunctions killed 500.000 iraqi childeren every year?'
About Israel:
Actually, the number of childeren and civilians got killed speak for themselves.
119 israeli to 971 palestinians (childeren)
700 israeli to 2000 plastinians (civilians)
And you are the first person calling westbank settlers legal (even Ariel Sharon could not say it. )
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legality of Israel, mandated by great britan etc (I was reading this really funny book from yalcin peksen and laughing a lot..I wont be reading it tonight..I had enough laugh )
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