Quoting excalibur89:

My turkish friend "thehandsome" seems intent on expressing his anti american views, can you express those views in Iran? or in Iraq when Saddam was in power? I'm sure feedom of speech is quite popular with the Taliban "NOT!" North Korea would be a fun place to express your views. To criticize those areas from within their own borders would most definitely result in some sort of physical discomfort!Yet you can come to the U.S.A. and curse the government aloud, even burn it's flag which is protected by the U.S. constitution then go have lunch when you are all done expressing your views.Join a protest in China and see how fast your day gets ruined.I am assuming you are in Turkey, Dont hate the U.S.A too much, If it werent for the U.S. military presence in Turkey all these years you just might be speaking russian right now.

Quoting thehandsom:

femme, I hope you are not a history teacher or a teacher tries to teach logic to students
Ok Ok
I will try to simplfy it for you (because I am getting quite dissapointed here)

Where is Vietnam? (in asia)
where is USA (in north america)?
What is the distance between USA and vietnam? (thousands of miles)
what do you call a country leaves from its own soil and lands on another country's soil with its army? (it is called invaders)
A simple logic here femme!! USA in that conflict is called the 'invading country'.
And the result of invasion is huge number of civilian dead. Millions of civilian deads.
You can not just say 'ah the real reason many died is eastern mentality' and get away with it!!
Even if you tell this to your childeren in a simply way, they will ask you ' ama ama mom, dont you think if USA army did not invade there would not be millions of civilians dead?'
I am sure when they learn how much napalm was used in that war and how many civilians burnt alive, they will ask more different questions!!

when it comes to Iraq war:
where is IRAQ? (in middle east)
where is USA ? (see above! )
what is the distance between usa and iraq (again thousand of miles)
Was Iraq a thread to europe or usa (not really, never!!)
what happened there usa? army invaded iraq.(then of course removed the army, removed the government)
The result of the invasion?( so far) 1 million dead.4 million displaced.
You can not say femme 'trained terrorists bombing everywhere, they are responsible' and get away with it.
Your childeren will turn around ask 'ama ama, if the usa army did not invade, there would not be 1 million dead and 4 million displaced'
And again, I am sure when they learn in depth, they will ask 'ama ama, is it true that shooting is not the only way to kill people? is it true that even before the invasion sunctions killed 500.000 iraqi childeren every year?'

About Israel:
Actually, the number of childeren and civilians got killed speak for themselves.
119 israeli to 971 palestinians (childeren)
700 israeli to 2000 plastinians (civilians)
And you are the first person calling westbank settlers legal (even Ariel Sharon could not say it. )
ve ve
legality of Israel, mandated by great britan etc (I was reading this really funny book from yalcin peksen and laughing a lot..I wont be reading it tonight..I had enough laugh )

Quoting excalibur89:

My turkish friend "thehandsome" seems intent on expressing his anti american views, can you express those views in Iran? or in Iraq when Saddam was in power? I'm sure feedom of speech is quite popular with the Taliban "NOT!" North Korea would be a fun place to express your views. To criticize those areas from within their own borders would most definitely result in some sort of physical discomfort!Yet you can come to the U.S.A. and curse the government aloud, even burn it's flag which is protected by the U.S. constitution then go have lunch when you are all done expressing your views.Join a protest in China and see how fast your day gets ruined.I am assuming you are in Turkey, Dont hate the U.S.A too much, If it werent for the U.S. military presence in Turkey all these years you just might be speaking russian right now.

Quoting excalibur89:

thehandsome

You say if the the russians invaded it would be "your problem", you are missing the point. The U.S. doesnt want it to be your problem.We dont mind taking on the responsibility to see that countries do not get overtaken by conquering governments. We have not invaded and taken control of lands. We have not and will not do what the ottoman empire,persian empire,roman empire and the british empire's have done in past history. Your obvious dislike for the U.S. is blurring your judgement. Ataturk embraced the west and so should you.

Quoting AlphaF: