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POLES AND TURKS
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 03:34 am |
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This anectode can be found in the website of Poland Embassy/Ankara.
In 1795 Austria, Russia and Prussia jointly shared Poland and erased this country from the map of Europe. The Ottoman Empire never accepted this fate for Poles.
The following routine became standard procedure in High Ottoman Court for the next 127 years: Whenever Sublime Porte had a meeting with foreign Embassadors, he would deliberately delay the kick-off, call his Grand Vezier and ask him (out loud) where the Polish delegation was. The Vezier, into the Sultan"s ear, but in a tone that everyone heard would say, "they are on their way, but may be a little delayed due to some minor problems". This ritual was repeated for 127 years, until Poland was resurrected after WWI.
The first European country ever to recognize the young Republic of Turkey, after Turkish War of Independence against the rest of Europe, was Republic of Poland. 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 04:31 am |
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The Poles themselves must have missed your point.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 06:13 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: The Poles themselves must have missed your point. |
Nah, they are smarter then you, I'm sure they got it. 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 09:44 am |
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Mr. Alfred Bilinski was another Pole who made his way into Turkish history.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 10:47 am |
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A bit obsolete,but still worth having a look at
http://www.polonya.org.tr/adampol_yuskel_demirel.html
one sentence made me smile"we will never make the same mistake again"
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:03 am |
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http://bruxelles.blogs.liberation.fr/ksiazka2.pdf
civilisations at war in Europe,p.18
good essay but time consuming 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:28 am |
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:54 am |
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Who cares by whom the Polish want to be invaded by? I wouldn't care less if Poland was a part of Germany or some other country.
I guess you Poles prefer this tone which bears no unnecessary special interest in Poland.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:57 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Mr. Alfred Bilinski was another Pole who made his way into Turkish history. |
Which Biliński Alfred do you mean?There were plenty of them.One even a traitor of his nation...what a shame,another a well known miner,well I guess you mean Ahmed Rustem bey
http://www.boyutpedia.com/default~ID~1447~aID~63491~link~ahmed_rustem_bey_(alfred_rustem).html
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:58 am |
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Vineyard,
That is because you do not know your history...if you are either Turkish or Polish.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 11:59 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Who cares by whom the Polish want to be invaded by? I wouldn't care less if Poland was a part of Germany or some other country.
I guess you Poles prefer this tone which bears no unnecessary special interest in Poland. |
Hahahah, you are an interesting person Vineyard. You bet they don't care what YOU think! 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:00 pm |
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Mr. Alfred Bilinski (Ahmet Rustem Bey) was the first Ottoman Ambassador to United States, about the time Wilson was the US President.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:01 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: That is because you do not know your history...if you are either Turkish or Polish. |
cosmopolitan  God that you know everything,God may be retired from now
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:03 pm |
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Give me more time..I am not perfect yet ! ))))))))))))
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:05 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: I am not perfect |
Wow! It is the second time in 2 days that I agree with you!  
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:05 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Give me more time..I am not perfect yet ! )))))))))))) |
I've noticed  
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:08 pm |
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Today is my POLAND DAY !
Don't spoil it ))))))))))
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 12:12 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: I am not perfect |
Wow! It is the second time in 2 days that I agree with you! |
My secret admirer
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 01:11 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: My secret admirer |
Enjoy it, cause that would be all there is...
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 01:20 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: I am not perfect |
Wow! It is the second time in 2 days that I agree with you! |
My secret admirer |
Awwwww you guessed! 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 01:45 pm |
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come on, AE, dont be such an english ass and say something on turks and poles 
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 01:53 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: come on, AE, dont be such an english ass and say something on turks and poles |
I know nothing about this subject so therefore have nothing to say. Historically Brits love the Poles so I will continue that trend
Except, of course, that I secretly admire AlphaX
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 02:20 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting vineyards: Who cares by whom the Polish want to be invaded by? I wouldn't care less if Poland was a part of Germany or some other country.
I guess you Poles prefer this tone which bears no unnecessary special interest in Poland. |
Hahahah, you are an interesting person Vineyard. You bet they don't care what YOU think! |
I think we now live up to your expectations in terms of who cares about whom...
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 03:00 pm |
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Do you know who was the OTTOMAN EMPIRE PADİŞAH and Turkish commander against king Jan III Sobieski in Vienna in 1683?
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 03:20 pm |
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Quoting yilgun-7: Do you know who was the OTTOMAN EMPIRE PADİŞAH and Turkish commander against king Jan III Sobieski in Vienna in 1683?
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Grand Vizier Merzifonlu Kara Mustafa Pasha was the turkısh Commander durıng the Battle of Vıenna on SEptember 12, 1683 whıch Kıng Jan III Sobıeskı's greatest success in joined command of Polish, Austrian and German troops. The ottomans were severely beaten and Kara Mustafa was executed when he returned to istanbul.
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 03:30 pm |
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Quoting yilgun-7: Do you know who was the OTTOMAN EMPIRE PADİŞAH and Turkish commander against king Jan III Sobieski in Vienna in 1683?
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learn earnigman, learn!
so said lenin PBUH!
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 04:38 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Today is my POLAND DAY !
Don't spoil it )))))))))) |
Have you been to Adam Mickiewicz museum today????getting the spirit for Polish day???????))))))
http://english.istanbul.com/Content.aspx?CatId=3522&Type=detail
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 04:56 pm |
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 04:59 pm |
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09 Dec 2007 Sun 05:03 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Jan A.P. Kaczmarek won the Academy Award for "Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)" for his latest film, Finding Neverland. |
to Add more about him:
Jan also won The National Review Board's award for Best Score of the Year, and was nominated for both a Golden Globe and BAFTA's Anthony Asquith Award for Achievement in Film Music.In addition to his work in films, Jan is also setting up an Institute inspired by the Sundance Institute, in his home country of Poland, as a European center for development of new work in the areas of film, theatre, music and new media.
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(thank god that king Jan III Sobieski stopped them in Vienna in 1683, which broke the advance of the Ottoman Empire into Europe and marked the turning point in the 300-year struggle between the forces of the Central European kingdoms and the Ottomans).