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inşallah kızmamışsındır
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04 Feb 2006 Sat 01:31 pm |
please explain to me why we cant just say,
inşallah kızmadın ??
and if it wasnt that i would have thought it would have just been
inşallah kızmamışsın
why do we use dır here??
please explain this all to me.. thanks in advance
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05 Feb 2006 Sun 01:16 pm |
so, when u say "there" do u mean physically there (with the person) karşında olabilir mi yani? like if i annoyed someone on msn whilst speaking to them.. which one would it be?
and also, why do we use "dır" here??
(i come online around this time now ramo.. i think u must come online different times...??)
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06 Feb 2006 Mon 04:47 pm |
well??
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07 Feb 2006 Tue 06:52 am |
Quoting miss_ceyda: so, when u say 'there' do u mean physically there (with the person) karşında olabilir mi yani? |
To my knowledge, I'd say not really, you not any one else did somthing bad or you knew definitely and directly that he/she got angry and in either of these two contexts, we say 'inşallah kızmadın'. (Is there any other context in which we say it?:-S )
Quoting miss_ceyda: like if i annoyed someone on msn whilst speaking to them.. which one would it be? |
I'd say 'inşallah kızmadın'.
Doğru mu?
Could someone correct me where i'm going wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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07 Feb 2006 Tue 08:43 pm |
if you are correct.. this helps.. sağolun
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13 Feb 2006 Mon 11:39 pm |
so why is "-dir" used here?? i still dont know look
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14 Feb 2006 Tue 03:01 am |
we can say dis like ''to be''
look
im a student = ben bir ögrenciyim
you are a student = sen bir ögrencisindir
she is a student =o bir ögrencidir
i hope dis helps little
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 05:34 pm |
I thought that the -dir ending was used in only two places,
1. to emphasise a fact that doesn't change,
2. used as is in a formal conversation.
This is why I really don't understand how İnşallah kızmamışsındır can adapt this suffix, especially due to the fact that it wasn't used in a formal context.
Also, how does the verb olmak help me here?
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 05:48 pm |
Someone said to me once:
Umarim iyisindir
I guess that's the same problem? I asked that person why he used the 2nd and 3rd person suffix of olmak at the same time, but I didn't really get the explanation
Is it to stress that he hopes that I'm well? Or is it that he hopes I'm well, but he is not sure? :-S
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 05:49 pm |
Quoting Elisa: Someone said to me once:
Umarim iyisindir
I guess that's the same problem? I asked that person why he used the 2nd and 3rd person suffix of olmak at the same time, but I didn't really get the explanation
Is it to stress that he hopes that I'm well? Or is it that he hopes I'm well, but he is not sure? :-S
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yeah.. this is another example.. why isnt umarın iyisin used?
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 05:58 pm |
Quoting miss_ceyda: Quoting Elisa: Someone said to me once:
Umarim iyisindir
I guess that's the same problem? I asked that person why he used the 2nd and 3rd person suffix of olmak at the same time, but I didn't really get the explanation
Is it to stress that he hopes that I'm well? Or is it that he hopes I'm well, but he is not sure? :-S
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yeah.. this is another example.. why isnt umarın iyisin used? |
Oh but you can use "umarım iyisin" though! In fact, my friend told me that when in doubt, it's better not to add the -dir suffix..
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 05:59 pm |
i think we need help!!
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 06:10 pm |
That is a very wise conclusion..
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 07:42 pm |
Any clever bastards here yet?
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15 Feb 2006 Wed 10:50 pm |
Quoting Elisa: Any clever bastards here yet?  |
sorry im not a bastard so u must find someone else to help u
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16 Feb 2006 Thu 10:20 am |
Quoting ramayan: Quoting Elisa: Any clever bastards here yet?  |
sorry im not a bastard so u must find someone else to help u |
I KNEW I was gonna get a reaction like yours.
Actually, I only use "clever bastard" as a compliment
But OK: I'll put the question in a different way:
Would any of the nice helpful souls here be so kind to help out a poor ignorant girl?
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16 Feb 2006 Thu 11:00 am |
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16 Feb 2006 Thu 01:28 pm |
Quoting salukvadze: its because of wrong conjugation...here is the correct conjugation:
iyiyim
iyisin
iyi (not also iyidir)
iyiyiz
iyisiniz
iyiler
-dir is not only for 3rd person and can be added to each:
iyiyimdir
iyisindir
iyidir
iyiyizdir
iyisinizdir
iyilerdir
even though they all make sense, 1st person rearly used, 2nd person often used, and 3rd person very often used. |
Thanks for helping out guys, but I still don't get it. WHY is it used? You can tell me if you think I'm stupid or slow in understanding, I'm not easily insulted
But really, I still don't know the reason why it is used..
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16 Feb 2006 Thu 05:09 pm |
Quoting Elisa:
Thanks for helping out guys, but I still don't get it. WHY is it used? You can tell me if you think I'm stupid or slow in understanding, I'm not easily insulted
But really, I still don't know the reason why it is used.. |
Instead of "why" I mean "when", of course. "When" as in "in which situation".
"Why" could turn this into a philosophical thing, and that is not my intention
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17 Feb 2006 Fri 12:16 am |
yeah.. why is it used?? what would be the difference between iyisin and iyisindir..?? of be kafam karıştı..
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17 Feb 2006 Fri 09:18 am |
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17 Feb 2006 Fri 04:42 pm |
thanks so much!! this really really helps!!
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20 Feb 2006 Mon 06:23 am |
I think the suffix -dir sometimes implies a strong possibility, a wish etc.
inşallah kızmamışsınDIR = Kızmamış olma ihtimalini umuyorum(a Wish)
More examples:
öğrencisindir herhalde. (strong possibility)
Q: Sence Ayşe yılbaşı partisine gidecek mi?
A: Gidecektir herhalde. (strong possibility)
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20 Feb 2006 Mon 02:02 pm |
thanks so much.. i will print this today
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