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1.       Deli_kizin
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 19 Jan 2008 Sat 03:57 pm

Please someone translate the following

Atatürk, tarihi ve sosyal zaruretlerle dile girmiş ve zamanla Türkçeleşmiş bulunun kelimeler de dahil olmak üzere, bütün yabancı kelimeleri dilden atma şeklindeki 'tasfiyecilik' hareketnin önünü daha kendi sağlılığında tıkamış iken, aşırı özleştirmecilik dilde ırkçılık demek olan bu harekete dört elle sarılmıştır.

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Dilde devrimcilik ve ilercilik anlayışı ile, dil çalışmaları politize edildiği, dil davası asıl gayesinden uzaklaştırılmaya çalışıldıüı için, bu durum dil inkilabının temel felsefesi ile taban tabana zıtlaşmıştır



THANKS İN ADVANCE!

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:05 pm

You are not going to get help from fiercely moustached Turkish nationalists, if you are going to fill your essay with PKK propaganda like this...

3.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:19 pm

why, Alpha, what is she saying?

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:20 pm

Im not sure if you are joking or not AlphaF. But the person who wrote this, wrote it for Türk Dili dergisi, so actually wrote it for Türk Dil Kurumu who publishes that magazine. The author was writing these for a bayram-speech, organized by TDK.

If you are not joking, Id like you to help me translate


Quoting AlphaF:

You are not going to get help from fiercely moustached Turkish nationalists, if you are going to fill your essay with PKK propaganda like this...



5.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:21 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

why, Alpha, what is she saying?



Its an article about things that went wrong with the Turkish Language Reform, and the reasons why Turkish government made a new law (No. 2876) upon history and language, to protect atatürks works and give them back their essential worth

6.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:33 pm

For us, fiercely moustached Turkish nationalists, life is simple...

1. Anyone who is telling Turks that Ataturk's time is over, his pictures should be removed from display and he should be forgotten,
2. Anyone who says Ataturk's revolutions were works of a dictator, not necessarily according to public wishes,
3. Anyone who advocates that Turks should go back to their Ottoman roots, ie. use Ottoman language, adopt Ottoman dress code etc.
4. Anyone who says being the free citizen of a republic and the follower of a religious belief are two concepts in competition, and Turks should obviously prefer the latter,
5. Anyone who preaches that the people in Turkia are from different ethnic groups, and that they shold be allowed to separate themselves from the unity...like small pebbles from a mozaic. PKK supportes.
6. Any coward (ablebodied, male citizen) who flees the country, when it is his turn to serve in the Army,
7. Anyone who suggests that Turkia should stop being a nation-state and becomes a part of the merry Global crowd,
8. Anyone who preaches EU is the only option open to Turkia and strives for membership - even at the cost of national soveregnity,
9. Anyone trying to sell a different religion to Turkish citizens; missionaries of all kinds, operating under veils,
10. Anyone who supports those who intend to replace the current democratic and secular republic with an Islamic mode of government (whether of fundamentalist, or soft kind),
11. Anyone who fancies himself to be ethnically of pure Turkish blood, hence imagines that he is superior to all other etnic citizen groups in Turkia...
12. Anyone who like to sing false songs about Armenian misfortunes, but demands a down payment of 14 billion dollars to discus realities in historical terms,
13. Any creep who approaches love stricken Western Ladies with intentions to cheat them out of their money, telephones or gold ear rings, whatever (dudu),
is not our friend....

7.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:36 pm

who in God's name would make such accusations?

I call this arguing for arguing sake.

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:46 pm

Really, Roswitha dear?

9.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 04:53 pm

Kindly clarify what Deli's Turkish sentences were about, fair enough:

Atatürk, tarihi ve sosyal zaruretlerle dile girmiş ve zamanla Türkçeleşmiş bulunun kelimeler de dahil olmak üzere, bütün yabancı kelimeleri dilden atma şeklindeki 'tasfiyecilik' hareketnin önünü daha kendi sağlılığında tıkamış iken, aşırı özleştirmecilik dilde ırkçılık demek olan bu harekete dört elle sarılmıştır.

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Dilde devrimcilik ve ilercilik anlayışı ile, dil çalışmaları politize edildiği, dil davası asıl gayesinden uzaklaştırılmaya çalışıldıüı için, bu durum dil inkilabının temel felsefesi ile taban tabana zıtlaşmıştır

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 19 Jan 2008 Sat 05:07 pm

This is the slimy language used by those against Ataturk, when they want to undermine his revolutions...to avoid the law which discourages direct insults against Ataturk and his revolutions.

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