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Too much caffeine raises risk of miscarriage!
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1.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:39 pm

Hmm... this is what fun means to me
http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/dh/8014

OAKLAND, Calif., Jan. 21 -- Caffeine's dangers in pregnancy are real, and it may be prudent to halt or reduce the intake of caffeinated beverages to lessen the risk of a miscarriage, according to a large prospective cohort study here.

Pregnant women who drank the equivalent of at least two cups of coffee daily, or five cans of a soft drink with caffeine, were twice as likely to miscarry as women who consumed no caffeine, found results of the study reported online in the American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology.

2.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:42 pm

I remember being told not to consume caffeine during my pregnancy 11 years ago. I just assumed everyone did.

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:50 pm

Seriously? Hmmm... so it's not such breaking news actually...

4.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 22 Jan 2008 Tue 06:52 pm

Maybe it is to some. So many OB/GYNs don't agree about a great many things unless there is a definative study. I guess its a good thing that now they know for sure.

5.       justinetime
1018 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 08:31 am

my aunt's doctor adviced her not to drink coffee, nor tea. so i guess this is nothing new.

6.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 07:55 pm

It sounds like a diversionary tactic and sorta fishy to me. Look many millions of women have been drinking tea and having millions of healthy babies for at least a thousand years. It doesn't seem to have hurt China and India.

I think we would do better to look at food quality, additives, environmental pollution. I'm sure eliminating a lot of those would be better than eliminating tea.

7.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 09:17 pm

Quoting alameda:

It sounds like a diversionary tactic and sorta fishy to me. Look many millions of women have been drinking tea and having millions of healthy babies for at least a thousand years. It doesn't seem to have hurt China and India.

I think we would do better to look at food quality, additives, environmental pollution. I'm sure eliminating a lot of those would be better than eliminating tea.



It's those crazy "got milk?" people again! Conspiracy theories....I love it.

8.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 09:58 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

It sounds like a diversionary tactic and sorta fishy to me. Look many millions of women have been drinking tea and having millions of healthy babies for at least a thousand years. It doesn't seem to have hurt China and India.

I think we would do better to look at food quality, additives, environmental pollution. I'm sure eliminating a lot of those would be better than eliminating tea.



It's those crazy "got milk?" people again! Conspiracy theories....I love it.



...........now that you mention it...

U.S. Food Safety: Home-Grown Problems Abound


and...

U.S. Food Safety: A Grocery List of Tainted Products
Recent recalls covered everything from spinach to meat to children's snacks.
By Amanda Gardner, HealthDay Reporter


MONDAY, Jan. 14 (HealthDay News) -- In a little less than a year and a half, the list of tainted foods has become as varied as it is long.

And the impact on people is stark:

An E. coli bacteria outbreak in bagged fresh spinach grown in California by Natural Selections killed three people and sickened more than 200 others in 26 states and Canada.
Salmonella in batches of Peter Pan and Great Value peanut butter, made by ConAgra Inc., sickened 625 people in 47 states.
Salmonella-tainted tomatoes served in restaurants sickened 183 people in 21 states and Canada.
E. coli-contaminated lettuce from California served at two Taco John's restaurants in two states sickened 80 people.
An E. coli outbreak in iceberg lettuce used by the Taco Bell chain sickened more than 70 people in five northeastern states.
A salmonella-contamination warning was issued for all Banquet chicken and turkey pot pies, made by ConAgra, after 139 cases of infection appeared in 30 states.
A nationwide recall of a children's snack, Veggie Booty, by Robert's American Gourmet Food Inc., followed 52 reports of salmonella illness in 17 states, mostly involving children under 10.
Reports of 25 illnesses from E. coli prompted the Topps Meat Co. to issue a nationwide recall of 21.7 million pounds of ground beef products, one of the largest meat recalls in U.S. history.
General Mills recalled 3.3 million pounds of frozen meat pizza products following reports of E. coli contamination sickening 21 people in 10 states.
Cargill Inc. recalled more than 800,000 pounds of ground beef distributed through Sam's Club after E. coli poisoning sickened at least four children.
Cargill issued a nationwide recall of more than 1 million pounds of ground beef sold to top supermarkets, because of potential E. coli contamination.
Castleberry Food Co. recalled more than 90 products, including children's snack foods, because of potential botulism contamination.
Kraft's recalled 24,000 cases of white chocolate baking squares because of potential salmonella contamination.
Oscar Mayer recalled 52,650 pounds of chicken breasts because of Listeria monocytogenes contamination.

9.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 10:13 pm

Quoting alameda:

It sounds like a diversionary tactic and sorta fishy to me. Look many millions of women have been drinking tea and having millions of healthy babies for at least a thousand years. It doesn't seem to have hurt China and India.

I think we would do better to look at food quality, additives, environmental pollution. I'm sure eliminating a lot of those would be better than eliminating tea.



I find myself agreeing with you Alameda. In addition, there are many reasons why a child is not always carried to full term and, frankly, sometimes it is for the best.

10.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 10:42 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

.......I find myself agreeing with you Alameda. In addition, there are many reasons why a child is not always carried to full term and, frankly, sometimes it is for the best.



Oh My Goodness...What is going on, you agree with me? and I agree with you too on this one +1001....

11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 10:43 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting AEnigma III:

.......I find myself agreeing with you Alameda. In addition, there are many reasons why a child is not always carried to full term and, frankly, sometimes it is for the best.



Oh My Goodness...What is going on, you agree with me? and I agree with you too on this one +1001....



STOP THAT GUYS....there was just an earthquake in Texas and I think hell is about to freeze over...it's getting dark!

12.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 24 Jan 2008 Thu 10:44 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

STOP THAT GUYS....there was just an earthquake in Texas and I think hell is about to freeze over...it's getting dark!



Hahaha! Well...ever since I found out that Alameda can take on more 5 year olds than me and single handedly wipe them out, I have new respect for this tough New Yorker!

13.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 01:46 am

Any ideas?

The Choice between Food and Fuel

All it takes for Hans Dietrich Driftmann, a businessman from Germany's northern Holstein region, to explain the way the world works is a package of muesli -- or at least to explain the way his world, the world of agricultural markets, works.

Driftmann picks up a packet of "Köllns kernige Multikorn-Flocken" ("Kölln's Crunchy Multigrain Flakes") and reads out the list of ingredients: oats, wheat, barley and rye. Then he slips a set of price tables out of a plastic sleeve and does a couple of calculations to illustrate how the prices of the muesli's ingredients have changed: rye has gone up by 55 percent, barley by 70 percent and wheat 90 percent. The price of oats has also skyrocketed -- by 80 percent -- since the last harvest a year ago. This final figure is what really hits home for Driftmann.

14.       justinetime
1018 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 06:22 am

i would have said the same thing about the tea, but after seeing the effects, i guess i'm a believer. my aunt loves drinking tea, and she wondered why she always feeled sooo woozy... when it was time for her appointment with her doctor, she asked her if she drinks tea. of course, she admitted to it, and adviced her to stop drinking it during pregnancy. there are large amounts of oxytocin (not sure of the spelling ) found in tea, rather than coffee, that apparently, affects the baby.

but then again, this is just the doctor has said.

15.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 08:51 am

I was warned about caffeine with my pregnancies and that was well over 25 years ago. Studies like this are done over and over and they usually contradict the one done previously. One day they say wine is good for you, the next day it isn’t. My belief is that what’s meant to be…will be.
The key is to just respect your body and not just during pregnancy.

16.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 05:10 pm

Coffee 'doubles' the risk of miscarriage

Pregnant women who drink more than two cups of coffee a day may have double the risk of miscarriage, claim researchers.


The finding has led to calls for expectant mothers to limit or even stop drinking coffee, tea, caffeinated drinks or hot chocolate to be on the safe side.

Consultant obstetrician Pat O'Brien, spokesman for the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said: "On the basis of this study, I think I'll be advising women to avoid caffeine during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, especially those with a history of miscarriage."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/thehealthnews.html?in_article_id=509437&in_page_id=1797

17.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 05:13 pm

What about consuming Coca Cola?

18.       geniuda
1070 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 08:29 pm

Quoting Roswitha:

What about consuming Coca Cola?


Coca Cola too Roswitha...anything that contains caffeine even chocolate

19.       geniuda
1070 posts
 25 Jan 2008 Fri 08:38 pm

Quoting girleegirl:


The key is to just respect your body and not just during pregnancy.


I completely agree with you Girlee..

Plus lets not forget that half of what we consume (either healthy or unhealthy) during pregnacy is absorbed by the baby .. so why not be a little more concious to at least during pregnancy avoid certain things that could harm our baby?

Also, as we most know, caffeine reduces the amount of vitamin D we comsume a day, and the we complaint of having weak bones

20.       HomeSick
137 posts
 26 Jan 2008 Sat 07:17 am

I do not remember how many years ago but anyway I was watching the discovery chanel and they were talking about the consumption of coffee with a claim that if somene drinks 10 or more cups of coffee in a day , he/she is getting the deadly dose.

I usually drink more than that in a day
Is it healthy ? of course not.

But not only the coffee, anything abused in consumption/usage/whatever is not good for the well being of someone.

21.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Jan 2008 Tue 02:39 pm

I am NOT reading MedPage Today Headlines any more!!!!!

22.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 01:39 pm

I gave up caffeine, alcohol and nicotine...in 7 months we'll see if it was a good choice

23.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 02:01 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I gave up caffeine, alcohol and nicotine...in 7 months we'll see if it was a good choice



Ohh Im so happy for you It must be tough, but its definitely worth it!

If I learn to knit by that time, I will personally provide you with baby socks

24.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 02:10 pm

Deal! And I have witnesses for that lol

25.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 02:17 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Deal! And I have witnesses for that lol



I would surely love to and definitely will if I manage so! However, I would like to point out that, not only I am lefthanded, sometimes it feels I have either 2 lefthands, or just 1 hand that is left

26.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 07:04 pm

DK, this is a special report for you

Lung Cancer Risk of One Marijuana Joint a Day Equals Daily Pack of Cigarettes

27.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:28 pm

Well, I never smoked marihuana !!!
And I quit smoking for almost 5 weeks now


I'd like you to find out about the risks of getting a tattoo though, now you're busy anyway

28.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:36 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I'd like you to find out about the risks of getting a tattoo though, now you're busy anyway


Ok canim, anything for you (at least since you became an admin ) So... risks of getting a tatoo:
1. increased probability of getting harassed by mexican men in turkey
2. infection
3. financial problems
4. risk of having to hide it 10 years later
5. there is a correlation between people who have tattoos and being hit by a meteorite...

29.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:38 pm

Quoting catwoman:

1. increased probability of getting harassed by mexican men in turkey
2. infection
3. financial problems
4. risk of having to hide it 10 years later
5. there is a correlation between people who have tattoos and being hit by a meteorite...



Ok, I think I can cross off 1,3 and 5. The first two dont really worry me and I doubt the last to be true You can get it lasered away these days, though it will leave a scar.. but Ill get it done somewhere easily covered up (nooo not on my face lol) . Infection, thats whats bothering me.. and someone told me it increases risk of skin cancer?

30.       catwoman
8933 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:42 pm

How can you not worry about 5!??? :-S This is VERY serious, it wiped out dinosaurs once! I'd reconsider if I was you... lol

31.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 30 Jan 2008 Wed 11:08 pm

Quoting catwoman:

How can you not worry about 5!??? :-S This is VERY serious, it wiped out dinosaurs once! I'd reconsider if I was you... lol



Im not getting one till I find the image that I want Its a search that could take years, Im told! And Im not the type to put 'K' or something on it

32.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 07:38 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Im not getting one till I find the image that I want Its a search that could take years, Im told! And Im not the type to put 'K' or something on it


How about "DK"?

33.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 08:13 am

Quoting catwoman:


So... risks of getting a tatoo:
1. increased probability of getting harassed by mexican men in turkey
2. infection
3. financial problems
4. risk of having to hide it 10 years later
5. there is a correlation between people who have tattoos and being hit by a meteorite...



I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!

34.       catwoman
8933 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 09:52 am

Quoting girleegirl:

I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!


I hope DK gives it more credibility now...

35.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:00 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting girleegirl:

I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!


I hope DK gives it more credibility now...



36.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:09 pm

If I wear in England İd surely wear a helmet, tattoo or not.. I heard there is a gigantic storm there, that caused the death of several people It is now blowing over to The Netherlands and we may even be confronted with water floods :-S

37.       libralady
5152 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 03:22 pm

I hate starting a sentance with 'In the UK' but .............. in the UK the women who are most likely to have a tattoo also:

Live in housing association accomodation
Have four children by four different fathers
Are obese
Are on benefits (any they can get!)
Show off their 'lovely ' tattoos, espcially the ones on their bellies, their big fat bellies
They don't just have one, they have 10, or 15 or are covered!

38.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 07:18 pm

Quoting libralady:

I hate starting a sentance with 'In the UK' but .............. in the UK the women who are most likely to have a tattoo also:

Live in housing association accomodation
Have four children by four different fathers
Are obese
Are on benefits (any they can get!)
Show off their 'lovely ' tattoos, espcially the ones on their bellies, their big fat bellies
They don't just have one, they have 10, or 15 or are covered!



OMG this is so stereotypical and judgemental......... but so true!!!! lol lol lol

39.       KeithL
1455 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 07:29 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


So... risks of getting a tatoo:
1. increased probability of getting harassed by mexican men in turkey
2. infection
3. financial problems
4. risk of having to hide it 10 years later
5. there is a correlation between people who have tattoos and being hit by a meteorite...



I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!



I've heard that people with tatoo's are more likely to have very slow internet service...

40.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 07:45 pm

Quoting KeithL:


I've heard that people with tatoo's are more likely to have very slow internet service...


Yes, sadly this is another fact. I should also report that I have only 5 teeth, terrible acne and drink copious amounts of wine, wrapped in a paper bag.

41.       portokal
2516 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 08:20 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting catwoman:


So... risks of getting a tatoo:
1. increased probability of getting harassed by mexican men in turkey
2. infection
3. financial problems
4. risk of having to hide it 10 years later
5. there is a correlation between people who have tattoos and being hit by a meteorite...



I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!


maybe removing it will do some good

42.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 08:42 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting KeithL:


I've heard that people with tatoo's are more likely to have very slow internet service...


Yes, sadly this is another fact. I should also report that I have only 5 teeth, terrible acne and drink copious amounts of wine, wrapped in a paper bag.



Then you are a typical bed American! You must be just lovely. If you're boyfriend has a mullet I will be truly envious!

43.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 09:12 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


Then you are a typical bed American! You must be just lovely. If you're boyfriend has a mullet I will be truly envious!


Who told!?!?!?

44.       portokal
2516 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 09:17 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Elisabeth:


Then you are a typical bed American! You must be just lovely. If you're boyfriend has a mullet I will be truly envious!


Who told!?!?!?


what does mullet mean?

45.       portokal
2516 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 09:20 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Elisabeth:


Then you are a typical bed American! You must be just lovely. If you're boyfriend has a mullet I will be truly envious!


Who told!?!?!?

I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!



. you must find a man that loves you then.

46.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Jan 2008 Thu 09:46 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting Elisabeth:


Then you are a typical bed American! You must be just lovely. If you're boyfriend has a mullet I will be truly envious!


Who told!?!?!?



I have my sources!!

47.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Feb 2008 Fri 10:37 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting girleegirl:

I have tattoo's and I can confirm that #5 is a real fear for me. I stay indoors as much as possible and when I absolutely have to be outside I wear a helmet!


I hope DK gives it more credibility now...



FWIW....a woman from Algeria (where a lot of women's faces were tattooed) told me that they found hair remover (like Nair) removed the tattoos in time.

Just a little folk knowledge that may come handy some time....

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