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Secular Apartheid at Work
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:23 pm |
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Its not only about evil. Its about the fact that government shouldnt support religiously based schools.
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:24 pm |
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To be honest I agree that pupils may be trained religious matters by the consent of their parents, but I believe it must not be during the standard curriculum.
It can be at weekends or summer time but standard curriculum must not be mixed too much with religious matters
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:26 pm |
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Quoting azade: Quoting ciko: Quoting azade: Curious...has anyone here ever attended an imam hatip school? They are just as good as any other turkish school where students don't learn english either. I know several people who graduated from imam hatip schools and they have not been brainwashed in any way, in fact they are very grateful that they were given an education they otherwise may not have been able to receive. |
yes i had education in imam hatip school.. is there any question?  |
Süper! So, ciko were you brainwashed at that evil, evil school?  |
Brainwashed? hahahahahaha if i were brainwashed i would be praying in the mosque now
no never..the only difference is we just get more lessons about religion..like reading quran and arabic lessons and rules of islam and life of Prophets and histories of religions bla bla..but furthermore we got all lessons which other students have at other schools.and the school i attended was the best one in my hometown and most of my classmates went to the best universities of Turkey ( this is not including me)
But i am personally against that government finances that kind of schools..i think the state should have the same distance to all faiths..or should have distance to any faith..
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:30 pm |
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Quoting ciko: [
But i am personally against that government finances that kind of schools..i think the state should have the same distance to all faiths..or should have distance to any faith.. |
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:32 pm |
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Quoting boradiz: Quoting ciko: [
But i am personally against that government finances that kind of schools..i think the state should have the same distance to all faiths..or should have distance to any faith.. |
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only 1 ?
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:33 pm |
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Evil was written sarcastically, that's the only practical use I know of that word
When you graduate from an imam hatip school you get a regular diploma and you're most likely not any more religious than the next person. The good thing about the imam hatip system is that they grant opportunities to young people who otherwise may not have been able to get an education. The students are not exceptionally religious in any sense, they still go out to look at girls or smoke on the school's attic. They may learn how to read arabic and so what?
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:38 pm |
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Quoting azade: they still go out to look at girls or smoke on the school's attic. |
hey hey hey we never smoked on the attic.. toilets were more practical 
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:40 pm |
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Quoting ciko:
Brainwashed? hahahahahaha if i were brainwashed i would be praying in the mosque now
no never..the only difference is we just get more lessons about religion..like reading quran and arabic lessons and rules of islam and life of Prophets and histories of religions bla bla..but furthermore we got all lessons which other students have at other schools.and the school i attended was the best one in my hometown and most of my classmates went to the best universities of Turkey ( this is not including me)
But i am personally against that government finances that kind of schools..i think the state should have the same distance to all faiths..or should have distance to any faith.. |
I agree it's not a good signal to send that the state finances religious based schools. Maybe if they sponsored kids going to robert college that would be better Or just regular good schools would do
What you're saying about graduates attending the best universities is something that I wanted to point out as well I just didn't have anything to back it up on. I have found that if you tell people that you gratuated from an imam hatip school it often creates a kind of "wow" factor. It usually shows that you are well-educated.
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 06:41 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting azade: they still go out to look at girls or smoke on the school's attic. |
hey hey hey we never smoked on the attic.. toilets were more practical |
 
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 07:51 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Are this quasi-religious schools run by the government? I think I missed something.
We have a lot of religious based schools here in the US but they are private schools. Public schools here are not allowed to promote religion in anyway. Just curious. |
That is a very intelligent qouestion Lisa...Honestly...
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23 Jan 2008 Wed 07:58 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting Elisabeth: Are this quasi-religious schools run by the government? I think I missed something.
We have a lot of religious based schools here in the US but they are private schools. Public schools here are not allowed to promote religion in anyway. Just curious. |
That is a very intelligent qouestion Lisa...Honestly... |
Should I be flattered that you think so? 
Anyway, from reading the subsequent posts I know the answer. I find it interesting that these schools are run by the government. It makes this situation a rather sticky wick then! I think your government makes it clear that the scarf can't be worn in public schools, is this right? In any case, I think it is poor taste to make an example of a small child. Poor thing. Perhaps a little more thoughtfulness in handling the situation was in order.
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