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a new racist and nationalist wave rising on all over world..
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1.       MrX67
2540 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:19 pm

Mistakes of international big capitals creating neoracist and neonationalist currents with the support of local goverment mistakes.There are 3 main type human model growing on all world,one of em very wealthy and citizen of all world,other one suffering in poverty and hopless about future,and the last one who feeding with the innocent feelings of poor and desperate feelings.This 3 human model's realities so different then each other,and pity second type human model goin a bit more racist or strong nationalist with the effects of hard life conditions and poverty and i believe they r the most innocent human model.İmmediately big capital owners and who feding with innocent humans' feelings have to make more true,honest,justly,ethical counts for save world from this dangerous trend...deleting borders between countries impossible but deleting thick lines between wealth and poverty not all!!!!

2.       AEnigma III
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 28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:34 pm

Nothing has changed then! Has there EVER been a time in history when there was no racism or nationalism or war?

3.       MrX67
2540 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:38 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Nothing has changed then! Has there EVER been a time in history when there was no racism or nationalism or war?

right but we innocent crowdeds can be hand by hand for break this dirty game,isn't it?

4.       AEnigma III
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 28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:41 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Nothing has changed then! Has there EVER been a time in history when there was no racism or nationalism or war?

right but we innocent crowdeds can be hand by hand for break this dirty game,isn't it?



Well, I believe that the majority of people are not racists or nationalists or war mongers. But those who are, speak loudest and are the most angry. Unfortunately, I dont think that it will ever change.

5.       portokal
2516 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 02:48 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Nothing has changed then! Has there EVER been a time in history when there was no racism or nationalism or war?

right but we innocent crowdeds can be hand by hand for break this dirty game,isn't it?



Well, I believe that the majority of people are not racists or nationalists or war mongers. But those who are, speak loudest and are the most angry. Unfortunately, I dont think that it will ever change.



hmm... i tend to look at this from a more general perspective.
racism, nationalism taken what this represents in a peiorative level (over-heated and destorted love for nation, with tendencies to disconsider other citizens upon some of their cultural characteristics) are induced feelings in the receptive society. what causes this? weeknesses, many times. poor social conditions, inoculation of unreal dangers and threatens. move the masses and you will have a win situation for your interests. many times, the quality of this interest varies. but these kind of feelings that are induced unfortunately do not come out from good reasoning.
IMHO
And this will hardly change, either. As long as there are interests, there will always be mass manipulation.

PS sometimes manipulation can be as strong, that it manipulates you into reading a book about manipulation...

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:19 pm

I dont know where that passage has taken from but I dont think it bears the truth.
Nationalism is a dying ideology. It has been used just after the industrial revolution to keep people in nation states.
Of course, before that there was agricultural revolution and religions to bind people.
Specially in EU, after two wars, religion and nationalism have been getting less and less important.
Rest of the world will follow the same pattern eventually.

7.       AEnigma III
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 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:21 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I dont know where that passage has taken from but I dont think it bears the truth.
Nationalism is a dying ideology. It has been used just after the industrial revolution to keep people in nation states.
Of course, before that there was agricultural revolution and religions to bind people.
Specially in EU, after two wars, religion and nationalism have been getting less and less important.
Rest of the world will follow the same pattern eventually.



Hmmmm I can only speak for the UK, but I noticed an increase in extreme right wing racists who blame immigrants for just about everything...

8.       MrX67
2540 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:24 pm

poverty brings localness,localness brings closed societies and closed societies very convenient exploited and manipulated or provakated.So life stilies or opinions shaped by economical conditions with the effects of religional or cultural values.Globalism really a great project but pity international big capitals using globalism as a tool just for make more their stocks never for creat a peacfull world...

9.       azade
1606 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:26 pm

I agree with you thehandsom but at the same time there are tendencies towards nationalism (in a very strong degree) in my native country, eg. a group called Dansk Front. Luckily it's still a relatively small organization, some of their leaders having gone to prison or been convicted of crimes already, while the vast majority of the population are regular people or quasi-racists (ie. Dansk Folkeparti who is the supportive party of the government). I'll put everything I have the reason for this tendency is the lack of integration of immigrants from different cultural backgrounds.

10.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:27 pm

Quoting azade:

I'll put everything I have the reason for this tendency is the lack of integration of immigrants from different cultural backgrounds.



+100000000000

11.       MrX67
2540 posts
 28 Jan 2008 Mon 03:38 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I dont know where that passage has taken from but I dont think it bears the truth.
Nationalism is a dying ideology. It has been used just after the industrial revolution to keep people in nation states.
Of course, before that there was agricultural revolution and religions to bind people.
Specially in EU, after two wars, religion and nationalism have been getting less and less important.
Rest of the world will follow the same pattern eventually.

may be ideologies lose their power but pity economical diversities and globalization creating high nationalist or racist waves (especially as the response of migrations)

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