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Youtube ban
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 04:05 am |
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Can people in Turkey see youtube again yet? I need to know because I am trying to set up a bellydance lesson with a lady in Istanbul and she can't see my videos and she can't see my website. Any Turkish volunteers to see if you can see my website? www.badiabdancer.com If someone would be so kind as to tell me if you can see it or not and if not, what kind of error message you get. This is the only place I could think of I could find people in Turkey to look. My videos from Youtube are linked to my website, so I think people couldn't see it for that reason...maybe.
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 04:14 am |
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yes we can see youtube again  from Turkey
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 03:54 pm |
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yes after youtube agrees to remove the video insulting Atatürk. The ban was because of the video uploaded by the user named Turkomaymun, which reportedly contained insults to Atatürk. youtube was banned for 5 days from 18 to 23 Jan 2008.
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 03:58 pm |
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Quoting si++: yes after youtube agrees to remove the video insulting Atatürk. The ban was because of the video uploaded by the user named Turkomaymun, which reportedly contained insults to Atatürk. youtube was banned for 5 days from 18 to 23 Jan 2008. |
 Just ridiculous.
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 06:34 pm |
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Quoting si++: yes after youtube agrees to remove the video insulting Atatürk. |
I can't believe someone can REALLY say this!!!  I am still in denial that there are people who really believe this... I still think it's UFO's and ginis... 
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:36 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting si++: yes after youtube agrees to remove the video insulting Atatürk. |
I can't believe someone can REALLY say this!!! I am still in denial that there are people who really believe this... I still think it's UFO's and ginis... |
Yeah me too. I actually dont understand why Youtube supports this kind of behavior. Its like the Google in China!!
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 09:40 pm |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Yeah me too. I actually dont understand why Youtube supports this kind of behavior. Its like the Google in China!! |
Yeah... but china is a regime... and I thought that turkey is a democracy that wants to be a part of the EU... but apparently I'm wrong.. :-S
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30 Jan 2008 Wed 10:59 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Deli_kizin: Yeah me too. I actually dont understand why Youtube supports this kind of behavior. Its like the Google in China!! |
Yeah... but china is a regime... and I thought that turkey is a democracy that wants to be a part of the EU... but apparently I'm wrong.. :-S |
I have come to find that there are many different versions of democracy, Catwoman. We must subscribe to the crazy form of it...you know that crazy Freedom=Democracy model!
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 10:03 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting si++: yes after youtube agrees to remove the video insulting Atatürk. The ban was because of the video uploaded by the user named Turkomaymun, which reportedly contained insults to Atatürk. youtube was banned for 5 days from 18 to 23 Jan 2008. |
Just ridiculous. |
It's not a state initiative.
some individuals (Turkish citizens) filed a complain to the court.
the court decided according to the law. you know we have a law about insulting Atatürk. that's how our democrasy works.
Which part is ridiculous?
what Turkish citizen did,
our low about insulting Atatürk,
or the court's decision?
Sorry we are not at your level yet.
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 01:21 pm |
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Quoting si++: It's not a state initiative.
some individuals (Turkish citizens) filed a complain to the court.
the court decided according to the law. you know we have a law about insulting Atatürk. that's how our democrasy works.
Which part is ridiculous?
what Turkish citizen did,
our low about insulting Atatürk,
or the court's decision?
Sorry we are not at your level yet.
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It İS a state-initiative as the state creates this law and keeps it going. I think its ridiculous what the Turkish citizens did, I think the law is ridiculous, but I dont think the courts decision is ridiculous because they just acted according to law. What I find most ridiculous, is that Youtube goes along with such thoughts..
And no need to apologize  You'll get there some day 
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31 Jan 2008 Thu 08:00 pm |
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I guess I am just used to the freedom of speech protected in the American constitution. It seems rediculous to Americans especially, since we are so used to the freedom of speech, that a government would ban something from all the people for one person making their opinion known. Democracy is one thing, freedom of speech is another. I guess I kind of took it forgranted. I can happily state George Bush is a moron without a problem! So I guess the Turkish version of 'Saturday Night Live' would never fly in Turkey?
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 12:48 am |
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Quoting Badiabdancer74: So I guess the Turkish version of 'Saturday Night Live' would never fly in Turkey? |
Looks like you're pretty new to TR culture
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 12:52 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting Badiabdancer74: So I guess the Turkish version of 'Saturday Night Live' would never fly in Turkey? |
Looks like you're pretty new to TR culture |
Well Catty, lets better say, this banning and cencornship has nothing to do with the culture but with the sick minds of idiot governors?
And moreover.. if you go more into Turkish culture catty, this will be homework to you and i will make you exam!
Females has a big important part on the rulling of the country and lifestyle
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:02 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Well Catty, lets better say, this banning and cencornship has nothing to do with the culture but with the sick minds of idiot governors?
And moreover.. if you go more into Turkish culture catty, this will be homework to you and i will make you exam!
Females has a big important part on the rulling of the country and lifestyle |
Well yeah, TR culture is varied.. but there are a lot of d***heads flapha's style who actually believe this crap.
As for women... don't even get me started on that...
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:08 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
Well yeah, TR culture is varied.. but there are a lot of d***heads flapha's style who actually believe this crap.
As for women... don't even get me started on that... |
I am considering the time before Turks accepted the Islam...
Now you will ask, is it Islam then that puts the women to second place...well i can say no but cant give proper examples now...
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 01:16 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: I am considering the time before Turks accepted the Islam...
Now you will ask, is it Islam then that puts the women to second place...well i can say no but cant give proper examples now... |
It's not only islam that's the underlying source of oppression of women, but islam makes it impossible to make any progress. It stifles any growth, because religious views are "holy" and not allowed to criticize. But I completely agree that patriarchy is a far more broad issue then just religion.
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:34 am |
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All religions have contributed to so many of the problems affecting both males and females today. Christians did burn women accusing them of witchcraft; medieval dungeons saw torture of all kinds made in the name of God allegedly in an effort to purify souls from evil thoughts and to inquire the sincerity of belief. Before Islam made its debut, it was a common practice among Arabs to bury their female babies. Islam came as a revolution by at least giving those babies a chance to live.
In his will left to his son Orhan, Osman the founder of the Ottoman Empire says: I fought all my wars and made all my conquests in the name of God and to spread his word all across the Earth as it is so written in the Holy Book that Jihad is necessary. My meaning was not mere gutter fight nor mindless brutality. You shall too put your sword at the service of God and work to spread his word.
That was exacty the idea the crusaders had when they came to Anatolia. In the name of God they killed, murdered, pillaged, raped, and desacrated the temples of other people.
Today, all malice is still being done in the name of God.
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Hopefully that would take care of our craziness