Those who symphatize with ladies running after their rights to wear turban as an expression of their personal freedom, should know the difference between "freedom of women" as we understand today, and "freedom of women" as understood among the Arabs around the time of Prophet Muhammad, to fully appreciate that ladies are - once again - being used.

In Arab society, around the time of Muhammad, there were two kinds of women,
1. The slave women (cariye), with no marriage ties to any man, who dressed very freely and considered to be of easy virtue,
2. Married women, officially registered as one man's domain, hence considered to be of higher and more respectable virtue and social standing compared to the former.

To differentiate between the two groups and avoid the harrasment (by others) for (2), the married women were required to cover themselves when they left the safety and privacy of their own homes. The message was that these ladies were in the private domain of a certain gentleman and that they were not available to others. In a sense, the hijab or whatever signified that these women were not slaves. That they were free (!).

The women in group (1) had no right to cover themselves, in a way that could mislead others to believe that they belonged to group (2). They were not free.

This was what being a FREE WOMAN was about 1400 years ago.

Are moslem ladies of today after the same kind of freedom? I think they are being manipulated.

some of women feel theirself more free by wearing mini skirt and some of em feel theirself more free when cover their bodies,which one of us have any right for judging their freedom perspective unless this diversities doesn't forced each other for to be look like theirself.Theres never place for doubles standarts in real democracy or secular system...i think we have to be more interested in with personalites then their life stylies or perspectives ,so a real democracy's mission to keep all diversities side by side with the mental,rational,objective ,legal rules for creat more peacfull and tolerated societies,namely democracy is never a toy any social,ethnical,religional,or benefit groups...

I dont care what part of their bodies they want to cover...so long as they do not think that is what freedom is.

This is a man's game !
It was in Prophet's time...It is now!

Hehehehe it is strange when your politics means that you suddenly have to become an advocate of women's rights Alpha!

Such is fate....I hope no one in my Harem is reading this crap !

could be....so what?

No wonder you guys are called extremists !

Can you not imagine some kind of rational attire for ladies, somewhere between mini skirts and hijab?

I dont mind having an occassional extremist, jumping up and down in protest and running around the place with strange aspirations...but we should not model the society after extremists, for God's sake !