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2490.       armegon
1872 posts
 09 Feb 2009 Mon 10:40 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 They are fighting for what they believe.. 


 

Everybody fights for what they believe thehandsom, dont try to cover the hypocracy of DD...

And you need to learn Islam for sure{#lang_emotions_razz}...

2491.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:03 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I agree with you..I would not want to use those straight away either.

But sometimes, there is no other way to respond really..!

 

 Sometimes I get really annoyed and use even worse language e.g. "silly", "naughty", and "ninkumpoop"

2492.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:04 pm

As usual, I say A and you read B lol

 

Where did I call the US a christian country? In the fragment where I typed "what you call a Christian country?" The phrase "what you call" does not imply me saying it is so but rather reinstating your point.

 

You may consider me a hypocrite, that definitely won´t deprive me of sleep, I just wonder where you have this idea from - I say:

 

“Peace loving talibans sent another message about how peaceful Islam is

 

meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself.

 

Applying your logic (or the lack of it) the world knows no secular countries. How about defining what a secular country is? The fact that the state does not interfere into religion of an individual, the fact that it by constitution grants equal rights to its citizens is not a quality of secularism? Finally that country´s army is composed of people of different faiths/religions and fighting for what´s best for their country - not in the terms of religion but money, power, influence - is not another quality of secularism?

 

If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.

 

I think the only sentence of your rethorics I agree with is that irreligious countries like the US are guilty and are more violent than religious regimes in the east. But still, I don´t consider it Christian invasion but a superpower invasion in order to gain control in the east. Yet, The US and EU are killing Iraqis NOT because they´re Muslims. Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.

 

 

2493.       armegon
1872 posts
 09 Feb 2009 Mon 11:49 pm

 

 

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

meaning that those mental morons show what they stand for - they call themselves Muslims so that´s the message they send. You read it "All the Muslims are mental killers" I didn´t write anything like that, but you´re free to grow your bias as you please. And yes, the fact that they stand against other Muslims who do not believe it´s Allah´s will to kill people around, speaks for itself. 

Do you really know Islam is the religion of 2 billion people not the monopoly of taliban? Its how people understood when you identified taliban with Islam, not only me but also CANLI and other members understood like this, so i guess nothing wrong with me

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

If we further apply your perversed logic, then your argument about "Muslim" (in your understanding) countries not invading "Christian" countries is proven wrong - look at Christian Serbia losing it´s oldest part to "Muslim" Albania.

I dont remember Muslim Albania(btw Albania is not mainly muslim) killing Christian Serbia´s citizens, on the other hand i remember Christian Serbia massacring Muslim Bosnians...

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Talibans on the other hand kill both "infidels" and those whom they do not consider Muslim enough for religious reasons - no, not exclusively, of course there are other factors as well but their religious fanatism is something that makes them not only shepards with guns.

 

 

 

Taliban calling everyone infidel who dont think exactly like them. But Iraqi civlians were killed because they were seen as muslim terrorists that shows US brainwashed people clearly...

2494.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 12:08 am

What caught my eye!  Is that the name of this thread or is it now devoted to discussion about the merits of the Taliban??  I hope not!{#lang_emotions_get_you}

2495.       armegon
1872 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 12:26 am

 

Quoting libralady

What caught my eye!  Is that the name of this thread or is it now devoted to discussion about the merits of the Taliban??  I hope not!{#lang_emotions_get_you}

 

 Sorry ...

2496.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 01:21 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

DD,

 

 

 

 

No, it wasn´t the death of a Pole that struck me, it was actually the comment Tami made about now there being one less hillbilly, which proves your theory about them not being sorry for human life at all.

I have no wish to run a campaign to make blinded people see, I know how I feel about it and I know now how they do. There´s no point of debating with people defending killers. I don´t care if Armegon an Tami have posters with bearded guys on their walls, I don´t care what ideology they support. The only thing I´m glad about is that I don´t share their fascination and understanding for killers. They may call me racist, it sounds like a compliment from the mouth of people defending such actions. Let them lie in bed thinking with awe about how Islam is going to prevail and all bed westerners will be beheaded, those remaining at life will be veiled and they´ll be able to spend their life happily waiting for the "grapes" in heaven {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

A surely has a selective memory - he remembers Serbians murdering Bosnians, but fails to see that what he calls Christian Europe and US sent their troops to help those poor Muslims. Now it puts bed Christians willing to do away with peaceful Muslims in a bit different light, doesn´t it?



Edited (2/11/2009) by Daydreamer [censoring Femme´s quote]

2497.       Melek74
1506 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 03:01 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

 

 

+100000000

 

Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.

 

There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?

 

Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?

 

And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.

 

And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.



Edited (2/10/2009) by Melek74 [Cleaned up the spelling errors]
Edited (2/11/2009) by Melek74

2498.       armegon
1872 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:31 pm

DD, stop talking nonsense and stop performing histrionics, your silly comments as usual started this discussion. Firstly you should hear what you are saying while you are sprinkling salivas from your mouth. Actually you are the one here worthless to debate, your hatred made you stony hearted and disrespectful. Nobody defended killers, but from the comments you made here, it is clearly understood that you see all muslims as terrorists, and its not the first time. I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...

2499.       Trudy
7887 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:42 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

 

 

+100000000

 

Where are the, so-called, moderate Muslims when other Muslims are committing hideous crimes in the name of their religion? Is they don´t act according to the religious dogma, why is nobody protesting this, speaking out against it. Silence is tacit approval.

 

There´s been not a single protest, single demonstration against suicide bombings in Muslim countries (that I know of). Why? Muslisms die too from the hands of suicide bombers, don´t they?

 

Sure you can talk about the evils of war brought on by the US, but the truth is, there´re people who are speaking against it, protesting, disagreeing with it (even though it has little or nothing to do with religion), who sympathize and empathize with the Muslims that suffer, even if there´s not much they can do themselves to stop it. Where are the Muslims who speak out against the evils committed by other Muslims against both Muslims and non-Muslims?

 

And to behead somebody like this, you have to be a beast, an animal, a thing that´s lower than a human being. They are sick psychopaths. They make me want to throw up.

 

And, no, not every criticism of the actions of Muslims is an attack on the religion. Besides, if you don´t want your religion criticised, then don´t use it and don´t allow people to use it to cover up murderous, hineous acts.

 

 All of this post: + 100000000 but especially the highlighted sentence!



Edited (2/10/2009) by Trudy [Spelling]

2500.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Feb 2009 Tue 05:50 pm

 

Quoting armegon

..I began to think you are like those Israelis who were clapping hands and nipping their champagnes while F16s were bombing childs or when people were being killed in various parts of world that serves to your pleasure. So the ones to be glad here are those who dont share your sick mentality...

 

Come on man..

After almost each suicide bombing from cihadists anywhere in the world, some muslims are dancing and distributing sweets on the streets..

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