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Are there any people in Turkey who would like sharia?
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 06:41 am |
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I'm just wondering how secular Turkish people are.. would they actually want politics to be based on Islam?
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:30 am |
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Oh yes, some of them definetely would. For the religious muslims, it can be acceptable. I would say their number is at least %7 (the votes their ultra Islamist party would get in the elections during later 1980s). No one know the exact figure now. Their party mutated over time and now they had 47% of the votes in the last election. So they are climbing. So it is something between 7% and 47% and that can only get higher in the future. It seems like that a Sharia state will be inevitable if nothing is done from now on. I am afraid they will get 57% or maybe 67% in the next elections.
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:38 am |
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Quoting si++:
Oh yes, some of them definetely would. For the religious muslims, it can be acceptable. I would say their number is at least %7 (the votes their ultra Islamist party would get in the elections during later 1980s). No one know the exact figure now. Their party mutated over time and now they had 47% of the votes in the last election. So they are climbing. So it is something between 7% and 47% and that can only get higher in the future. It seems like that a Sharia state will be inevitable if nothing is done from now on. I am afraid they will get 57% or maybe 67% in the next elections. |
Of course some of them would but to say they number between 7% - 47%? That is a HUGE disparity! There must be some more accurate figures you can quote from.
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:44 am |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting si++:
Oh yes, some of them definetely would. For the religious muslims, it can be acceptable. I would say their number is at least %7 (the votes their ultra Islamist party would get in the elections during later 1980s). No one know the exact figure now. Their party mutated over time and now they had 47% of the votes in the last election. So they are climbing. So it is something between 7% and 47% and that can only get higher in the future. It seems like that a Sharia state will be inevitable if nothing is done from now on. I am afraid they will get 57% or maybe 67% in the next elections. |
Of course some of them would but to say they number between 7% - 47%? That is a HUGE disparity! There must be some more accurate figures you can quote from.
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My point is if the number changes from 7% to 47% in about 20 years, they are definetely on the way to becoming a majority. No one knows the exact number but it's rising that's for sure.
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 08:53 am |
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And now we started to hear them talk freely. 2 weeks ago, I watched a program on TV. Somebody called and talked on the phone. When asked "do you want the Sheria state?", "if you are a Muslim, that's what Koran orders" he said. Program host asked "So men should marry 4 women, Men take 2/3 and women take 1/3 of inherited property, cut the hands of thieves, stone the women etc, do you want it?", "yes" he answered "that's what Sheria orders".
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 09:08 am |
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Quoting si++: And now we started to hear them talk freely. 2 weeks ago, I watched a program on TV. Somebody called and talked on the phone. When asked "do you want the Sheria state?", "if you are a Muslim, that's what Koran orders" he said. Program host asked "So men should marry 4 women, Men take 2/3 and women take 1/3 of inherited property, cut the hands of thieves, stone the women etc, do you want it?", "yes" he answered "that's what Sheria orders". |
Thanks for your reply Si++, this is veeeeeeeeeery scary!
I agree with GG though that these numbers are a bit suspicious... there seems to be a little bit of paranoia from the nationalists that islamists will overtake the government...
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 10:06 am |
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dont worry cat.. they are no more than 10 %.. you dont believe paranoids
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:15 am |
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Quoting ciko: they are no more than 10 %.. you dont believe paranoids |
how come gul ended up elected by those 10%? 
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:27 am |
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Quoting catwoman: I'm just wondering how secular Turkish people are.. would they actually want politics to be based on Islam? |
tut tut tut 
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20 Feb 2008 Wed 11:35 am |
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I think Si is referring to the votes AK parti received in the last elections. I dont think that the majority of their voters is a devoted muslim. In my opinion, they voted for them because there was no better alternative (MHP is obviously no option, CHP's head is not very popular) and because its a fact that since Erdoğan is 'On the top', the economy has gone better. But for how long?
By going on the streets to reject a religious government in the mitingler of last summer, and then still voting for that party, shows how divided Turkey is: they gave a sign in which they showed they want the best for their country, but they want a secular government too.
So if your numbers are based on the votes for AKparti, I highly doubt that the number is that high. It is possible that it is between 7 and 47, but then it is definitely closer to 8 than to 46, so to speak.
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