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Circassian women always had a reputation for extraordinary beauty
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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 03:28 am

This is a most interesting topic:Their beauty is still known in many cultures where Circassian people immigrated and live since then. Poems and songs were written about the Beauty of Circassian women in countries such as Turkey, Jordan and Syria and the term "Circassian beauty" is still used in countries where people of Circassian origin still live.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_beauties

Myths from the Forests of Circassia


Two myths from the Circassians of the Caucasus Mountains offer detailed insights into the ancient veneration of trees and sacred groves.
In the southernmost part of European Russia, near the border of the Soviet Union with Turkey and Iran rise the highest mountains in Europe, the mighty massif of the Caucasus. In the complex topography of this region live many tribes and ethnic groups, most of whom speak languages unrelated to any others on earth. One of these groups with a distinctive language is that of the Circassians. Famed for the beauty of their women and the bravery of their men, as well as for the bewildering complexity of their language, their homeland from remotest antiquity has been the north-west region of the Caucasus,(though today many live outside the Soviet Union). In the Caucasus they have pursued a horse-breeding, pastoralist way of life on the plains abutting the mountains and a life of animal-husbandry, farming, hunting and metal-working higher in the foothills. These same foothills with their dark gorges, many of which have never been penetrated by man, are covered by dense forests of hardwoods, conifers and undergrowth, such as rhododendron, watered by rains carried from the west off the Black Sea. While today the majority of Circassians are Sunni Moslems, they still preserve heroic myth-like myths, called Nart sagas, two of which reflect older practices of venerating trees and forests. Given the nature of their homeland, and the wide Eurasian traces of tree worship (for example, the English word 'true' is ultimately derived from the same root as that for 'tree'), these myths are not in themselves surprising. The rich insights that these myths provide into cultic practices surrounding trees and groves, however, are astounding. Here, with the help of my Circassian friend, Hisa Torkacho of Hillside, New Jersey, I present translations of two of the more interesting tree and forest myths. The first is from the collection of Circassian Nart sagas by the Soviet scholar Asker Hadaghat'la. The second was collected by Mr. Torkacho himself.



http://www.circassianworld.com/colarusso_3.html

http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/canopy/2317/




The Circassians are a Muslim people, whose Russian name is Cherkess and whose native name is Adygey. They are now officially classified as three peoples: the Kabarda, in the Kabardino-Balkar Republic; the Circassians or Cherkess, in the Karachay-Cherkess Republic; and the Adygey, in the Adygey Republic. The term Circassian has sometimes been incorrectly applied to all the mountain peoples of the N Caucasus. Known in antiquity, they inhabited the western side of the Caucasus and the Crimea and were known to the Greeks as the Zyukhoy. They were Christianized in the 6th cent. AD but adopted Islam in the 17th cent. after coming under the rule of the Ottoman Empire. In 1829 the Ottoman Turks were forced to cede Circassia to Russia. At this time the Circassians occupied almost the entire area between the main Caucasian range, the Kuban River, and the Black Sea. In the many Russo-Turkish wars in the first half of the 19th cent., the Circassians bitterly fought the Russians. After the Russian conquest of the area, about 400,000 Circassians migrated to Turkey (1861-64). Circassian women were reputed to be great beauties, and many were sold into slavery in Turkey. There are today large Circassian groups in Turkey, Syria, and Jordan.

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 03:45 am

Circassians are very close to Chechens...Chechens made life for Russians miserable, until they got involved with Saudi (Vahhabi) money, started reading ZAMAN and got under Saudi influence: after which they were finished.

Saudis themselves are said to be under British influence.

Last Chechen leader Zakhayef was captured by Russians. Then 50 000 Sterlins were paid to Russia for Zakhayef's release and he was taken to England.

The 50 000 Sterlings were put up by Venessa Redgrave.

Believe it or not !

3.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 03:47 am

Very interesting. Those ladies are indeed beautiful

4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 03:53 am

PT,
You look better with your boots on....

5.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 04:28 am

Quoting AlphaF:

PT,
You look better with your boots on....



Yes they are in my mouth

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 04:47 am

I fell in love with one of them many moons ago.
Yes..They are really beautiful..
Huge hazel eyes.. Very prominant cheek bones..

7.       portokal
2516 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 11:48 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I fell in love with one of them many moons ago.
Yes..They are really beautiful..
Huge hazel eyes.. Very prominant cheek bones..


handsom dear, a devil has just entered the kitchen.
think it slipped from the aering hole of the oven...
can you please take care of it????!!!!!

8.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 11:52 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting thehandsom:

I fell in love with one of them many moons ago.
Yes..They are really beautiful..
Huge hazel eyes.. Very prominant cheek bones..


handsom dear, a devil has just entered the kitchen.
think it slipped from the aering hole of the oven...
can you please take care of it????!!!!!


Sorry portokal
But, it sounds very complicated. Can you find somebody else?

9.       portokal
2516 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 11:55 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting thehandsom:

I fell in love with one of them many moons ago.
Yes..They are really beautiful..
Huge hazel eyes.. Very prominant cheek bones..


handsom dear, a devil has just entered the kitchen.
think it slipped from the aering hole of the oven...
can you please take care of it????!!!!!


Sorry portokal
But, it sounds very complicated. Can you find somebody else?



really? it did not sound like that.
i am sorry i do not want to find someone else.
you assumed that virtue...
if i would would be likes of you... and i would make it differently than at this 3rd level...

PS do not worry about the sarmas...

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Feb 2008 Sat 11:57 pm

Quoting portokal:


PS do not worry about the sarmas...


You will never forgive me for those sarmas..will you?

11.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 12:41 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting portokal:


PS do not worry about the sarmas...


You will never forgive me for those sarmas..will you?



i have lots of answers:

A. certainly not!
B. at this level, dear, we should negotiate this...
C. you think i could ask you to eat food you do not like?
D. i would consider a pleasure to eat a gulash cooked by you
E. i am making a fool of myself
F. how come we have this discussion on this subject?
G. i do not want to be a shit poke
H. i cannot be upset with you
I. it is that there is beauty in everything since you came into my life
J. actually i was looking for your reasons for backing from what you once said you will do
K.
L. i don't think you would like me to forgive you
M. sometimes a quarrel over minor things can do well, according to the rules that when a woman says you are a good man it means she can be happy without you. than the man knows his value to easily and he feels unhappy.
N. make those you love happy in thoughts, words and deeds.
O. try to solve things the way they have to be but never loose sight of the aims of life
P. i am not that argumentative and talkative, i learned some things i quote for different occasions
Q. honesty in respect
R. some beautiful music would do well.
S. have you actually tasted my cooking?
T. the rule is to either cook from heart, very delicious and according to tradition, either do not expect praises for the dish but only for the cook and that not for cooking mastery
Z. i have no words


12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 01:07 am

Oh gosh..portokal
ermmmm..What about the missing letters U Y X?
Do I expect you to come back and write them too?
But..which one is the answer?

13.       dizzyspinner
0 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 01:16 am

The list would have been more impressive if each answer began with that letter of the Alphabet

14.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:09 am

the answer it is that this morning a caged bird asked me to delete her from msn. i usually take women's wishes as they are because, being a woman i understand the emotional nature of their wish.
but i think my dreams can exist, regardless to that. i may be not of turkish or muslim culture by birth, but i learned some things. and i may wish some others. and i may found my happiness in what i wish. some understanding is coming from being a woman this is a common thing to ... all women in all cultures. emphasizing my hesitations may lead me astray, yet it is my wish not to be astray.
the truth is i like my " cage " and that i do not feel like caged.

15.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:12 am

But...
This is nothing to do with me..is it?

16.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:40 am

no it is not, in a way that i did not start this discussion with a clean heart.

17.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:45 am

about those sarmas... i know they are not properly done, as for me, i am not that sure about my sarmas making qualities.
yet i felt it was thoughtless what you said about "my sarmas".

18.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:48 am

Quoting dizzyspinner:

The list would have been more impressive if each answer began with that letter of the Alphabet



which one, dizzy spinner?

19.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 02:58 am

and i think, that taking my wish to be a better person and a woman, i am in a way, making fool of myself each time i make comments led by ignorance. or not proper attitudes.
what makes me more is that i am in a way truly beautiful. and this beauty, in a way, came to me being given.

20.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 03:07 am

Quoting portokal:

and i think, that taking my wish to be a better person and a woman, i am in a way, making fool of myself each time i make comments led by ignorance. or not proper attitudes.
what makes me more is that i am in a way truly beautiful. and this beauty, in a way, came to me being given.

21.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Feb 2008 Sun 04:17 am

little boy please take care of your little lamb. on the neck your little lamb has a healing wound.

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