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Youtube has yet again been banned
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06 May 2008 Tue 01:04 pm |
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Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated  I hope someone has had better luck than me though I can't get the proxy solution to work.
It is not about something such as youtube being banned, it is the fact that a court puts a ban on something so harmless. It is outrageous and highly criticizable, and if someone can't see that I think they should take a look in the mirror and check their values.
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06 May 2008 Tue 01:17 pm |
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FOR IE
tools-->connections-->LAN settings
then check 'use automatic configuration script' box
and then, copy and paste below into that box..
http: //rosinstrument.com/cgi-bin/proxy.pac
ps. get rid of the space between 'http:' and '//'
It should work.
Once you finished watching youtube..un-tick the check box
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06 May 2008 Tue 01:25 pm |
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Ok, I am ashamed! Sorry Caliptrix - I was sure it was you so I used a quote with your nick. It might have been Vineyards, if so, apologies to him as well. I should store useful pieces of advice WITH the nick of a person providing them.
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06 May 2008 Tue 02:09 pm |
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Quoting azade: Must
follow
government
orders
me
ignorant
youtube
evil  |
 
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06 May 2008 Tue 11:18 pm |
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Quoting azade: Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated I hope someone has had better luck than me though I can't get the proxy solution to work.
It is not about something such as youtube being banned, it is the fact that a court puts a ban on something so harmless. It is outrageous and highly criticizable, and if someone can't see that I think they should take a look in the mirror and check their values. |
Are you aware of the fact that courts are not deciding this by themselves? A person applies to court and claims that Youtube is broadcasting harmful videos, then they decide to block it...
This is understandable for me! This doesnt mean that i like it. But that person also have the right to claim about this fact. And turkish courts are responsing it.
The content of the court or claim can be ridiculous, but i dont care... youtube will be accessible again. But with this event you cant say Turkey is not democratic, it is not i know but because of other issues... not with banning Youtube.
And almost the same videos are in myspace aswell.
The sad thing about this topic is, when there are thousands of things to fix in my lovely country. some people are spending their time with such nonsenses...
This should have been what you are talking now...
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06 May 2008 Tue 11:24 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting azade: Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated I hope someone has had better luck than me though I can't get the proxy solution to work.
It is not about something such as youtube being banned, it is the fact that a court puts a ban on something so harmless. It is outrageous and highly criticizable, and if someone can't see that I think they should take a look in the mirror and check their values. |
Are you aware of the fact that courts are not deciding this by themselves? A person applies to court and claims that Youtube is broadcasting harmful videos, then they decide to block it...
This is understandable for me! This doesnt mean that i like it. But that person also have the right to claim about this fact. And turkish courts are responsing it.
The content of the court or claim can be ridiculous, but i dont care... youtube will be accessible again. But with this event you cant say Turkey is not democratic, it is not i know but because of other issues... not with banning Youtube.
And almost the same videos are in myspace aswell.
The sad thing about this topic is, when there are thousands of things to fix in my lovely country. some people are spending their time with such nonsenses...
This should have been what you are talking now... |
If there are so many things that need to be fixed in your country, why are the courts even taking the time to ban youtube? Instead of discouraging this kind of lawsuit it rewarded with the restriction of people's right to view what they choose. Sorry Sui...but this issue is at the crux of what is wrong with Turkey and every nation that claims to be free....civil liberties in your country and all over the world, including my country are being limited by governments. People should NEVER allow this to happen.
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06 May 2008 Tue 11:34 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth:
If there are so many things that need to be fixed in your country, why are the courts even taking the time to ban youtube? Instead of discouraging this kind of lawsuit it rewarded with the restriction of people's right to view what they choose. Sorry Sui...but this issue is at the crux of what is wrong with Turkey and every nation that claims to be free....civil liberties in your country and all over the world, including my country are being limited by governments. People should NEVER allow this to happen. |
You should have known better than me! Courts are not deciding by themselves you know... there are laws... and judges are using these laws... if you have enough proves to convince the judges that they are suitable for that... then you win! this is like this everywhere!
This story is not different than the courts are made for marlboro cigarettes or a person who slides and fells down in McDonalds because of the floor is wet and he didnt recognize it because the sign wasnt turned to him.
On other hand, civilized societies? there is no such thing that would dare to make moves to make things better! because the economical power in country are not at their side. I know lots of people who covered their heads because their husbands was in good contact with AKP and they want to take business from them Its all money!
That is more important than our freedoms unfortunately...
The people who aware of the facts is about 50 percent in turkey lets say, but 40 percent of them are not couraged to say something against to government rules. because they are afraid that their business will be ruined. so 10 percent is not capable to do anything.
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06 May 2008 Tue 11:45 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: Quoting Elisabeth:
If there are so many things that need to be fixed in your country, why are the courts even taking the time to ban youtube? Instead of discouraging this kind of lawsuit it rewarded with the restriction of people's right to view what they choose. Sorry Sui...but this issue is at the crux of what is wrong with Turkey and every nation that claims to be free....civil liberties in your country and all over the world, including my country are being limited by governments. People should NEVER allow this to happen. |
You should have known better than me! Courts are not deciding by themselves you know... there are laws... and judges are using these laws... if you have enough proves to convince the judges that they are suitable for that... then you win! this is like this everywhere!
This story is not different than the courts are made for marlboro cigarettes or a person who slides and fells down in McDonalds because of the floor is wet and he didnt recognize it because the sign wasnt turned to him.
On other hand, civilized societies? there is no such thing that would dare to make moves to make things better! because the economical power in country are not at their side. I know lots of people who covered their heads because their husbands was in good contact with AKP and they want to take business from them Its all money!
That is more important than our freedoms unfortunately...
The people who aware of the facts is about 50 percent in turkey lets say, but 40 percent of them are not couraged to say something against to government rules. because they are afraid that their business will be ruined. so 10 percent is not capable to do anything. |
You're right Sui. Unfortunately, people all over the world are turning a blind eye to the freedoms they are loosing. Today it is youtube in Turkey...tomorrow who knows. In the US we are imprisioning people in Guantanamo without cause....tomorrow it could be me or someone else who is imprisioned for no reason. People fail to fight over these things because it doesn't effect them directly or they trust their governments, or because they just don't understand. It's sad really.
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07 May 2008 Wed 03:33 am |
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Quoting Elisabeth: In the US we are imprisioning people in Guantanamo without cause.... |
really, will America ever be a democratic country?
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07 May 2008 Wed 11:53 am |
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Who cares about the procedure for banning, it is the fact that a court interferes and decides what a whole nation is allowed to see. If there truely were harmful videos on youtube, they should just contact the staff and I'm sure they would remove them. It is laughable that something so stupid as a video of Atatürk's head placed on a dog's body or whatever it is this time can cause a banning. It is single, ignorant persons who post something like this and clearly there's no need to take it seriously.
I would also much rather focus on more important issues but when I do so I tend to be called a liar and much worse words in the book. Although when you look at this as a princip it is quite grave indeed. There is so much censorship everywhere and is is used as a tool to shape the nation in the way the people on top of the ladder wants, politically that is.
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07 May 2008 Wed 12:30 pm |
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Azade is absolutely right. It's true people sue McDonald's or tobacco companies. Yet still the government doesn't ban them. Or at least I've never heard of closing a McDonald because somebody slipped there.
If somebody has a problem with youtube, they should sue the site or the author of a given film. Banning the whole site is an insult to Turks. It's the government telling them they are incapable of deciding what's ok to watch themselves.
If watching Ataturk's head on a dog's body may cause trauma to sensitive Turks, I wonder if redtube.com (a free porn website) is banned too.
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