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1.       magnadea
0 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 11:23 am

The situation in Burma should be a warning to ANY country who is over sensitive to criticism. Those Turkish nationalists who concern themselves with their country's reputation and outward appearence should take GOOD NOTE. Burma is a country who has a history of arresting anyone who disagrees or pays the slightest insult to their regime.. including writers and poets.. ring any bells?

The Burmese government are effectively killing thousands more people by blocking aid workers from entering and by hiding bodies to keep death tolls lower. Their efforts to cover up this tragedy are so "admirable" ...such a shame they could not have made the same effort in helping the dying. People are dying, unaware that an hours flight away in Bangkok, food and shelter and medical assistance are available.

Today, amid all the disaster around them, the Burmese are holding a constitutional referendum and will be more concerned with votes than with making efforts to help their own people.

Governments who put criticism and reputation before their own people are criminals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7393371.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7393565.stm

2.       magnadea
0 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 11:40 am

A country's propaganda and reputation shown at it's best:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/10/cyclonenargis.burma1

3.       libralady
5152 posts
 10 May 2008 Sat 12:50 pm

Burmas shame - very true! So dispicable it is difficult to be able to find the words to write. How can anyone, and there are a whole raft of individuals, care so little about human life that they will not allow aid workers in. The worrying thing also, is the government could well see this as an opportunity to make money from aid and charity donations. This makes me so angry, that everyone who wants to help are in fact helpless.

I also noticed in the guardian article, the journalist is unamed for their own protection.

4.       magnadea
0 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:33 pm

Just one reply eh? Nobody has any comment about Burma?

5.       MrX67
2540 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:41 pm

world needs more stronger,powerfull and aouthorized international organizations for creat a more common and livable world.İ'm afraid things will never change with organizations like UN and planty humanity shames will be on all over world as now in Burma..And things never will change unless we don't feel pains of others in deep of our hearts...

6.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:46 pm

Quoting MrX67:

world needs more stronger,powerfull and aouthorized international organizations for creat a more common and livable world.İ'm afraid things will never change with organizations like UN and planty humanity shames will be on all over world as now in Burma..And things never will change unless we don't feel pains of others in deep of our hearts...



Are you actually blaming the UN for not helping? I am not a big fan of the UN but it is about the Government of Myanmar not letting aid get it....not the worlds refusal to help. The Myanmar government is content to let its people suffer rather than letting help in.

7.       MrX67
2540 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 05:53 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting MrX67:

world needs more stronger,powerfull and aouthorized international organizations for creat a more common and livable world.İ'm afraid things will never change with organizations like UN and planty humanity shames will be on all over world as now in Burma..And things never will change unless we don't feel pains of others in deep of our hearts...



Are you actually blaming the UN for not helping? I am not a big fan of the UN but it is about the Government of Myanmar not letting aid get it....not the worlds refusal to help. The Myanmar government is content to let its people suffer rather than letting help in.

i don't blaming UN,i just metonining more autharized international organizations Elisabeth,you see Un can't fix problems with this way...

8.       magnadea
0 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:04 pm

Quoting MrX67:

i don't blaming UN,i just metonining more autharized international organizations Elisabeth,you see Un can't fix problems with this way...



What a lovely thought! A kind of world police eh or a Thunderbirds style International Rescue? A rescue squad who ignore any government?

Hmmmm...hopefully they would be authorised to go and rescue women being stoned for showing an ankle, or beaten my their husbands too?

9.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:14 pm

perhaps if we start with the fact that "people" are monkeys, it would make the whole conversation easier...

10.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:15 pm

So that's how it works - if international organisations dare to criticise or, what's even worse, interfere, everybody's angry at them for not minding their own business. But if they don't interfere, they're the one to blame for all the bad things that go on...

11.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:39 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

So that's how it works - if international organisations dare to criticise or, what's even worse, interfere, everybody's angry at them for not minding their own business. But if they don't interfere, they're the one to blame for all the bad things that go on...



I am so glad we both understood the same thing. I was beginning to think I was in the twilight zone....

12.       MrX67
2540 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:44 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Daydreamer:

So that's how it works - if international organisations dare to criticise or, what's even worse, interfere, everybody's angry at them for not minding their own business. But if they don't interfere, they're the one to blame for all the bad things that go on...



I am so glad we both understood the same thing. I was beginning to think I was in the twilight zone....

sure that look likes a dream and may be its sound a bit funny,but i believe that innocent majorities have to be saved against insolant,quilty and selfish minorities,this or that way...

13.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:45 pm

Nevermind...I am in the twilight zone....I am glad I have company! lol

14.       MrX67
2540 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 06:52 pm

if only my English could be enough to understand intentions or aims,not easy to answer mocking lines with poor language really....

15.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 10:55 pm

Quoting MrX67:

if only my English could be enough to understand intentions or aims,not easy to answer mocking lines with poor language really....


Has Turkey provided help to Burma? I'm just curious.

16.       libralady
5152 posts
 16 May 2008 Fri 11:27 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

if only my English could be enough to understand intentions or aims,not easy to answer mocking lines with poor language really....


Has Turkey provided help to Burma? I'm just curious.



There is a problem with providing aid, who will get it? Sadly not those who are most in need, but the Junta will benefit. At the moment I think only USA and France have been able to get in with any aid or at least drop aid. When planes and helicopters are shot at, it is not easy to deliver aid even if the whole world wanted to. It is such a sad situation.

17.       bydand
755 posts
 17 May 2008 Sat 12:15 am

Quoting libralady:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting MrX67:

if only my English could be enough to understand intentions or aims,not easy to answer mocking lines with poor language really....


Has Turkey provided help to Burma? I'm just curious.



There is a problem with providing aid, who will get it? Sadly not those who are most in need, but the Junta will benefit. At the moment I think only USA and France have been able to get in with any aid or at least drop aid. When planes and helicopters are shot at, it is not easy to deliver aid even if the whole world wanted to. It is such a sad situation.


Yes Turkey gets knocked regularly but there are worse places to live.

18.       CANLI
5084 posts
 17 May 2008 Sat 12:59 am

İt is such a tragydy
İ just dont understand why the government holding the rescue effort,and why doesnt allow the foreigner help ?!
Afraid if those countries will interfear in their affairs later or what ?
Sure it seems bigger than their capability to deal with such disaster,so they will let people die just like this?!

İ agree also with MrX67 if we have stronger UN countries would be more comfortable asking and receiving for its help

Never the less its outrages letting people die just like that
And for WHAT ?!!

19.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 17 May 2008 Sat 01:08 am

Quoting MrX67:

world needs more stronger,powerfull and aouthorized international organizations for creat a more common and livable world.İ'm afraid things will never change with organizations like UN and planty humanity shames will be on all over world as now in Burma..And things never will change unless we don't feel pains of others in deep of our hearts...


What the world NEEDS is for egomanical leaders like the ones in Burma to get their heads out of their asses and wake up and see what is happening to their people!

The UN....or any other organization or country for that matter.....is not responsible for the travesty that is going on there!!! The responsiblity for it rests squarely on the shoulders of the Burmese leaders but all they care about is staying in power.

The aid that is being offered to them is being taken by the Junta and distributed as they see fit....which means it will not go to the people who need it.

There are not enough words to discribe the disgust that most human beings feel for what is happening there.

20.       libralady
5152 posts
 17 May 2008 Sat 12:46 pm

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting MrX67:

world needs more stronger,powerfull and aouthorized international organizations for creat a more common and livable world.İ'm afraid things will never change with organizations like UN and planty humanity shames will be on all over world as now in Burma..And things never will change unless we don't feel pains of others in deep of our hearts...


What the world NEEDS is for egomanical leaders like the ones in Burma to get their heads out of their asses and wake up and see what is happening to their people!

The UN....or any other organization or country for that matter.....is not responsible for the travesty that is going on there!!! The responsiblity for it rests squarely on the shoulders of the Burmese leaders but all they care about is staying in power.

The aid that is being offered to them is being taken by the Junta and distributed as they see fit....which means it will not go to the people who need it.

There are not enough words to discribe the disgust that most human beings feel for what is happening there.



GG you could not have put it any better. The blame squarly rests at the shoulders of the egotistical, meglamaniacs who "run" the country. I read yesterday that the opposition leader, Aung San Suu Kyi has been under house arrest for 13 years, with just two maids and her meals are delivered daily and are are checked by guards. This house arrest has now been tightened since the disaster. What do they think she will do? A small 62 year old woman.

21.       libralady
5152 posts
 18 May 2008 Sun 12:44 pm

At last Burma is accepting aid, with the USA and Britain now leading. Long boats are being brought in to get to those isolated on the coast. The UN are putting pressure on the military rulers and the charity Save the Children are gravely concerned for the millions of unourished children that will undoubtedly starve if aid does not reach them. Doctors from India have been "allowed" in too.

Despite this show of grace by the Burmese government, restrictions are still inforce, they are trying to play down the scale of the disaster.

22.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 May 2008 Sun 10:35 pm

Quoting libralady:

At last Burma is accepting aid, with the USA and Britain now leading. Long boats are being brought in to get to those isolated on the coast. The UN are putting pressure on the military rulers and the charity Save the Children are gravely concerned for the millions of unourished children that will undoubtedly starve if aid does not reach them. Doctors from India have been "allowed" in too.

Despite this show of grace by the Burmese government, restrictions are still inforce, they are trying to play down the scale of the disaster.


Thank you for the update Libralady.

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