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Why most 'educated' Turks are more close-minded!!
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70.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 12:43 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting armegon:

His agenda seems no different than the ones who take millions of euros from EU.


Explain that more please. I'm really curious what you think his 'agenda', other then just saying what he thinks, is.


I keep asking about this agenda for a long time, but so far, I have failed to get an answer!!

But accusing of people having 'a secret agenda' is not one of the genious inventions of these friends.
The concept of 'foreign powers, dark forces, foreign elements, pressing of a button, secret agenda, seeds of discord etc' were invented long time ago in 70s and 80s.

*They are the ones trying to divide Turkey
*They are the ones made us lost the WWI when Germany lost
*They are the ones made Turks and Kurds enemy of each other while we were living peacefully.
*They caused the entire ermenian thing
*They are the ones who are trying to enter the unis with their turbans
*They are trying to convert our people to cristianity with those missionaries.
*They placed the entire left/right problem into Turkey years ago
*They are the people having a button somewhere in EU and USA and pressing on when Turkey does well.
*They have budgets and pay the enemy of Turks in other countries.
*They killed Ugur Mumcu, Hrant Dink etc
*They are behind the energy problem of Turkey and the death of labours in Tuzla Dockyard-It is a recent invention btw-

I am still expecting, somebody will come up with the idea that 'farting problem after eating too much kuru fasulye' is the result of 'dark forces' as well.



This is wny TC is still worth visiting! lol lol lol
Wonderful post H

71.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 01:48 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Guys, you're free to disagree with him and anyone you wish in the forum, but accusing people of having secret agendas is simply ridiculous.


lol
... and paranoid that handsom and his extraterrestial army will wipe Turkey off the map, establish Handsomye instead and elevate himself to the ranks of Ataturk/god, the father of all Handsoms. You will have to sing hymns every morning to praise his greateness and your foremost duty will be to defend Handsomye from every foreigner, either with words or your own blood.

72.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 03:25 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Guys, you're free to disagree with him and anyone you wish in the forum, but accusing people of having secret agendas is simply ridiculous.


lol
... and paranoid that handsom and his extraterrestial army will wipe Turkey off the map, establish Handsomye instead and elevate himself to the ranks of Ataturk/god, the father of all Handsoms. You will have to sing hymns every morning to praise his greateness and your foremost duty will be to defend Handsomye from every foreigner, either with words or your own blood.



Once I am in that position, do you think DD will answer all my pms and I will get an msn invitation from her?

73.       teaschip
3870 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 03:27 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting armegon:

His agenda seems no different than the ones who take millions of euros from EU.


Explain that more please. I'm really curious what you think his 'agenda', other then just saying what he thinks, is.


I keep asking about this agenda for a long time, but so far, I have failed to get an answer!!

But accusing of people having 'a secret agenda' is not one of the genious inventions of these friends.
The concept of 'foreign powers, dark forces, foreign elements, pressing of a button, secret agenda, seeds of discord etc' were invented long time ago in 70s and 80s.

*They are the ones trying to divide Turkey
*They are the ones made us lost the WWI when Germany lost
*They are the ones made Turks and Kurds enemy of each other while we were living peacefully.
*They caused the entire ermenian thing
*They are the ones who are trying to enter the unis with their turbans
*They are trying to convert our people to cristianity with those missionaries.
*They placed the entire left/right problem into Turkey years ago
*They are the people having a button somewhere in EU and USA and pressing on when Turkey does well.
*They have budgets and pay the enemy of Turks in other countries.
*They killed Ugur Mumcu, Hrant Dink etc
*They are behind the energy problem of Turkey and the death of labours in Tuzla Dockyard-It is a recent invention btw-

I am still expecting, somebody will come up with the idea that 'farting problem after eating too much kuru fasulye' is the result of 'dark forces' as well.



This is wny TC is still worth visiting! lol lol lol
Wonderful post H



+10000000 Absolutely...

74.       catwoman
8933 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 04:46 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Guys, you're free to disagree with him and anyone you wish in the forum, but accusing people of having secret agendas is simply ridiculous.


lol
... and paranoid that handsom and his extraterrestial army will wipe Turkey off the map, establish Handsomye instead and elevate himself to the ranks of Ataturk/god, the father of all Handsoms. You will have to sing hymns every morning to praise his greateness and your foremost duty will be to defend Handsomye from every foreigner, either with words or your own blood.



Once I am in that position, do you think DD will answer all my pms and I will get an msn invitation from her?


Will she have a choice? She would go to prison for three years for refusing your requests, thereby insulting your handsomness!

75.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 04:54 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Daydreamer:

Guys, you're free to disagree with him and anyone you wish in the forum, but accusing people of having secret agendas is simply ridiculous.


lol
... and paranoid that handsom and his extraterrestial army will wipe Turkey off the map, establish Handsomye instead and elevate himself to the ranks of Ataturk/god, the father of all Handsoms. You will have to sing hymns every morning to praise his greateness and your foremost duty will be to defend Handsomye from every foreigner, either with words or your own blood.



Once I am in that position, do you think DD will answer all my pms and I will get an msn invitation from her?


Will she have a choice? She would go to prison for three years for refusing your requests, thereby insulting your handsomness!



Both of your stop this!
You are violating Rule 7008 of the Handsomye Code

76.       libralady
5152 posts
 13 Jun 2008 Fri 10:19 pm

I am a little upset here. I feel left out. Is it that I am insignificant in this one sided battle between Cynic wotsit and Catwoman over the virtues of Thehandsom and his new country? How can I be noticed in between the glorisouly LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG posts (Yawn!!)

All I ask is, who is Mustafa Akyol ................ please? And no, I refuse to google!

77.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 01:42 am

You ought to be kidding...

First, you post replies to people (that's me in this case) without even bothering to read what they have written (what I had written in this case.) Then, having realized how ridicuolous you must have sounded with your first post, you confess to not having read my post in the first place, go back to read it, and with your half-understanding, you still attempt to shove words down people's throats. Do you really expect people to take you seriously when you post responses without knowing what you are responding to, since you haven't bothered to read?

On the contrary to your comprehension, what my post shows is not dissidence against anyone who criticizes Turkey. I am under the impresion that you still haven't bothered to read the post.

Regarding your fine example of comparing Turkey to Russia, where dissidents disappear over night, I regret to say that I don't agree with that statement either. Anyone who has ever been to Russia & Turkey knows very well that Turkey has never been as oppressive as the Cold War Era Russia.

I also love the way you make all these phoney assumptions about how we have been taught to "hate" each other.

You sound like you have been taught to hate a lot more than we do.




Quoting catwoman:

Quoting armegon:

Quoting cynicmystic:

Because I am under the impression that handsom starts these rather "charged" topics with a bit of an "agenda",


Quoting cynicmystic:

I think your thread is insincere my friend.


Thats what i share wholeheartedly .


This fear of someone having an agenda is pretty funny actually . What can thehandsom do with his 'agenda'? Bring down the Turkish republic? Start a terrorist organization? lol
What your response shows is that no dissidence from the state ideology is allowed, that's number one pillar of turkish nationalism. Kind of reminds me of Russia :-S where people who disagree with the state mysteriously disappear.
In a normal country, dissident ideas should not only be widely known, but also discussed with mutual respect without suspicion or hate. It is pretty sad actually that you are taught to hate each other in case you see someone who may threaten your government and the 'republic' ideology.

78.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 03:16 am

Quoting cynicmystic:



Regarding your fine example of comparing Turkey to Russia, where dissidents disappear over night, I regret to say that I don't agree with that statement either. Anyone who has ever been to Russia & Turkey knows very well that Turkey has never been as oppressive as the Cold War Era Russia.


I agree with you, Turkey has never been as bad as Russia, but we are not very clean about the issue of 'people dissapearing suddenly'(or the oppression) either.
There have been thousands dissapeared in 1980s, 1990s.

If you are intrested, a Turkish link for you:
http://www.radikal.com.tr/ek_haber.php?ek=r2&haberno=1234

Whenever I remember dissapearences in Turkey, I always remember the mothers who were holding weekly vigil for the "disappeared" in Istanbul/Galatasaray.
At some stage, we even took those mothers, who just wanted to know what happened to their sons, to the courts.

And also an incident from me:
When I was at Uni, my friends and I were sitting in the garden and two men came and took one of my friends with them..
We did not see him for 6 months and when he was released he was a wreck



79.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 03:32 am

Sure that many has disappeared.

What I would like to ask you is this.

In other places, such as North America, Western Europe and China, haven't people been dissappearing as well. Authoritarianism is everywhere, and criticisizing Turkey as if it is the only country in the worlds suffering from this is pointless.

How do you feel about the UK deriving 1/3 of its income from international arm sales, which eventually leads to war & oppression? Do I need to mention Guantanamo Bay? The Brazilian shot to death in the London subway, the Polish guy tasered to death by the Canadian airport police, or the numerous cases of police brutality from Europe or north America. There people going missing all over the world. Whenever you challenge or pose a risk to the established status-quo, you are eliminated.

Talking about these problems as if they are political issues that can be resolved with the right kind of legislation is not only annoying, but is naive.

If you live in a glass house, don't cast stones at your neighbour! The social issues you highlight are happening all over the world. So, don't single out Turkey as an example. All of our governments are equally involved in everything at the upper levels.

Perhaps it is about time to wake up...

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting cynicmystic:




I agree with you, Turkey has never been as bad as Russia, but we are not very clean about the issue of 'people dissapearing suddenly'(or the oppression) either.
There have been thousands dissapeared in 1980s, 1990s.


80.       armegon
1872 posts
 14 Jun 2008 Sat 03:43 am

Quoting catwoman:

Explain that more please. I'm really curious what you think his 'agenda', other then just saying what he thinks, is.


Ask Mr.thehandsom , im sure he knows what im putting forward moderator . Im too lazy to find some articles to post here at the moment.

Quoting Daydreamer:

Guys, you're free to disagree with him and anyone you wish in the forum, but accusing people of having secret agendas is simply ridiculous and weakens the message of your posts.


Yeah i am free to disagree but i am not accusing anyone, i just voiced what i sense and it has nothing to do weakening the message of my posts.

Quoting Daydreamer:

If Handsom's agenda is to corrupt Turkey's image then yours must be showing how wonderful, non-nationalistic, non-brainwashed, allowing everyone express their opinions in public your country is.


, simple thinking, im not trying to show anything to anyone, i just try to response the posts here. Have u ever seen me starting a thread like u mentioned in this biased forum?

Quoting Daydreamer:

What I gather from discussions like yours is that the fear and hatred towards 'the others' (those who dare to express their thoughts freely) is a proof of your nationalism. You just have to have enemies...How sad...


Dont I express my thoughts freely? Ahh i forgot, im narrow-minded, here who says Kurds/PKK are freedom-fighters express their thoughts freely but when i say Kurds are nothing but new petrol guardians of Yankees then i became nationalist/racist. But in fact in my entire life i have no connection with the nationalists or ülkücü thats the ironic part . Also i have to add that it is impossible for an ordinary Turk become more patriot among you. And what i gather from the discussions like yours is that the fear and hatred towards the people who love their country even the girls here who has Turkish/Kurdish lovers. I have problems with the ones who think instead of Turks as they try to mention that they know everything better, arrogantly and i have problems with the domestics who are flatterers and who are ungratefuls.

Quoting thehandsom:

The concept of 'foreign powers, dark forces, foreign elements, pressing of a button, secret agenda, seeds of discord etc' were invented long time ago in 70s and 80s.

*They are the ones trying to divide Turkey
*They are the ones made us lost the WWI when Germany lost
*They are the ones made Turks and Kurds enemy of each other while we were living peacefully.
*They caused the entire ermenian thing
*They are the ones who are trying to enter the unis with their turbans
*They are trying to convert our people to cristianity with those missionaries.
*They placed the entire left/right problem into Turkey years ago
*They are the people having a button somewhere in EU and USA and pressing on when Turkey does well.
*They have budgets and pay the enemy of Turks in other countries.
*They killed Ugur Mumcu, Hrant Dink etc
*They are behind the energy problem of Turkey and the death of labours in Tuzla Dockyard-It is a recent invention btw-


This is one of the current trends which foreign admirer liberals began to voice in media during the past several years. They are taking lessons for this in Europe . A propaganda method to develop insensible, unconcerned people who are kept sleep with TV series or any kind of pursuit.

Quoting thehandsom:

I am still expecting, somebody will come up with the idea that 'farting problem after eating too much kuru fasulye' is the result of 'dark forces' as well.


lol, no it is the result of nationalism , well-leveled expression btw Mr.thehandsom.

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