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1.       hanan
197 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 12:36 pm

hi everybody
i want to ask how do we add the suffix (gi) to word (at).
thanks anyway.

2.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 03:59 pm

What do you mean by the suffix -gi ???

According to the suffix dictionary there is not a -gi suffix and I have not come across 'g' being used as a fusion consonant.

3.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 08:40 pm

Quoting hanan:

hi everybody
i want to ask how do we add the suffix (gi) to word (at).
thanks anyway.



Don't you mean the suffix "-i" added to a word ending with "k"? Adding this suffix induces a consonant change and "k" becomes "ğ" as in:

ekmek -> ekmeği istiyorum

It's the only "-gi" that comes to my mind :-S

4.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 08:53 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

ekmek -> ekmeği istiyorum



*hands you the bread*

5.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 10:05 pm

Quoting bod:



*hands you the bread*



If I had known your generousity, I would have said BİRA

6.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 10:07 pm

remember that you only use this suffix if you want to be specific!!

ekmek istiyorum= i want bread
ekmeği istiyorum= i want the bread

7.       bod
5999 posts
 06 Mar 2006 Mon 10:40 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting bod:



*hands you the bread*



If I had known your generousity, I would have said BİRA



Did you want to dip your bread in your beer :-S

8.       Kadir37
0 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 01:59 am

9.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 02:10 am

That still doesn't make sense of the question.......

The question seems to be:
how do you add the -gi suffix to at (horse)
The problem with this is that there is no such thing as a -gi suffix and the -i suffix does not cause consonant mutation to form -ği when added to "at".

So the answer to the question seems to be:
atgı which is not a valid word formation!

10.       Kadir37
0 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 02:16 am

11.       bod
5999 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 02:18 am

Quoting Kadir37:

atgı is not correct

At -> Atı -> Ata

There is no suffix "-gı"



Isn't that exactly what I said above???

The original question that was asked was invalid - so can only be answered by an invalid answer!

12.       hanan
197 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 10:59 am

Quoting bod:

Quoting Kadir37:

atgı is not correct

At -> Atı -> Ata

There is no suffix "-gı"



Isn't that exactly what I said above???

The original question that was asked was invalid - so can only be answered by an invalid answer!


hi
my question wasn't invalid cause i was doing a grammer when i was asked the same question, look to this u will find it How do you add suffix -gi to the word at?
atgı

atkı

atgi

atki


thanks anyway

13.       erdinc
2151 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 03:32 pm

Quoting Kadir37:

atgı is not correct
At -> Atı -> Ata
There is no suffix "-gı"
If last letter is "t" sometimes this letter doesn't change. You will learn these words by the time.



'At' doesnt follow the consonant mutation not because it is ending with 't' but because it is a single syllabling word. Most words that have one syllable don't follow consonant mutation no matter the last letter being p, ç, t or k.

hanan,
There is no 'gi' or 'ği' suffix.

'At' is Turkish word and can either mean 'to throw' or 'a horse'. 'Atkı' is another word and means 'a scarf'. The word 'atkı' has no suffix and has nothing to do with at. They are unrelated words.

The consonants p, ç, t, k can change to b, c, d, g(or ğ ) when they are followed by a suffix that starts with a vowel. Obviously the letter p,ç,t,k has to be at the end to change after a suffix that starts with a vowel.

Almost all single syllabling words are outside this consonant mutation rule. The word has to have more than one syllable (more than one vowel because in Turkish number of syllables is the same as the number the vowels)

Daydreamer gave a correct example to this above. Here is another one:

Bardak: a glass

If I want to use the accusative case, as you know I add the suffix -ı or -i. The accusative is used for something that is the direct object of a transitive verb.

For instance kırmak (to break) is a transitive verb in both languages. It is transitive because you can apply this verb to an item. In this case we use the accusative case for nouns.

I broke the glass.
Bardağı kırdım.

bardağı: bardak+ı > noun (bardak) + accusative case suffix (ı )
Bardağı is an example of consonant mutation.

Words with a single syllable like 'at' dont follow the consonant mutation. We say:

I have seen the horse.
Atı gördüm.

There are very few exceptions with single syllables that do follow the mutation. The most known is 'çok'.

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