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What is Ergenekon?
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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 02:35 am

New arrests in Turkey's Ergenekon operation, as interrogations end

A Turkish court arrested six people, including the chairman of Ankara Chamber of Commerce, detained under the Ergenekon operation with suspected links to a gang who allegedly plans to provoke chaos for paving the way of a military coup. Prosecutors demanded more detainees including two former generals to be arrested.

Interrogations of the suspected detained on Tuesday completed on Friday, as their detainment period expires. Prosecutors asked the court to arrest Ret. Gen. Sener Eruygur, Chairman of Kemalist Tought Association (ADD), and Ret. Gen. Hursit Tolon.

Earlier on Saturday four people arrested include Sinan Aygun, Ret. Colonel Hasan Atilla Ugur, Ibrahim Ozcan, Hayrettin Altintas and Birol Basaran.

Retired Admiral Ilker Guven and anti-AKP leftist Cumhuriyet's Ankara bureau chief Mustafa Balbay were released, while Osman Gurbuz were arrested by the court.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/home/9361510.asp?gid=244&sz=75450

2.       Latenight
1 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 07:16 am



tnx fo open this topic...but u gettin information from wrong page... Coz not many people in turkey belive hurriyet news..

u better check : http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/

3.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 06 Jul 2008 Sun 11:55 am

congraculations to AKP and its arse lickers, they managed to kill smn they kept in jail for 13 months without any indictment. Where are the "democracy" mongers?


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/9367010.asp?gid=229&sz=4312

4.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 07:16 pm

Quoting Latenight:



tnx fo open this topic...but u gettin information from wrong page... Coz not many people in turkey belive hurriyet news..

u better check : http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/


Its also one of the best sellers my friend.
1-Posta
2-Hurriyet

Ergenekon is the operation which AKPP is controlling for to eliminate some people. You know there are some people tell us the wrong things that AKPP has done,tell us the money they have, tell us the agreement shouldnt have done. So for to escape from these. AKPP started an operation which is called ergenekon. They are takin people from their home with pollice especially great writers at 5 AM. after 3 hours they let them go. By doing these they want us to think that they are terrorist.

Also the newspaper this guy is talkin about is the newspaper belongs to them. They know who will be taken at what time better than police..

People are jokin about it; ( when someone is definitely not guilty and not related about anything ) You can also joke ;
http://www.medyafaresi.com/?hid=12895&cid=3

5.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 08:06 pm

Erkenekon is a group that killing innocent people like Hrant Dink ( related with his murder) bombing daily neys ( Cumhuriyet) defencing a military goverment, (some generals were arrested to have intent to ruing civil goverment, they prepared 3 plans for that)... may be u remember the "gladio" in europe.. the same group which has the same charactetistic with Ergonokon Group..and the member of socialist enternasyonel group called the Party CHP (dont know its name but its president is Papandreu)defends its ideas.. (ironic)

at the same time closing case was open in Top Court for the AKP.. they think this against for that.. but it is for illegal group...

6.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 08:09 pm

Quoting Latenight:



tnx fo open this topic...but u gettin information from wrong page... Coz not many people in turkey belive hurriyet news..

u better check : http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/


he was cancer before went to jail.. this is doctor's fault.. not goverment.. and this administration does not judge the people..the people went to jail because of court decision, not AKP...
(this is nor for you.. i just misquote sorry)

7.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 08:39 pm

Thanks for the explanation, Furkan. Appreciated your reply.

8.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 09 Jul 2008 Wed 10:05 pm

Quoting duskahvesi:

Erkenekon is a group that killing innocent people like Hrant Dink ( related with his murder) bombing daily neys ( Cumhuriyet) defencing a military goverment, (some generals were arrested to have intent to ruing civil goverment, they prepared 3 plans for that)... may be u remember the "gladio" in europe.. the same group which has the same charactetistic with Ergonokon Group..and the member of socialist enternasyonel group called the Party CHP (dont know its name but its president is Papandreu)defends its ideas.. (ironic)

at the same time closing case was open in Top Court for the AKP.. they think this against for that.. but it is for illegal group...


Great writers like to bomb their newspapers then.
The ones bombed are from cumhuriyet
The ones killed are from cumhuriyet
and for you The ones guilty are from cumhuriyet

The writers that has been taken are also from Cumhuriyet newspaper. Hrant Dink was also a friend of Cumhuriyet Newspaper. Also if you know the situation a AKPP newspaper provoked people against him.

You know it's also easy to understand that this is AKPP's job. Ergenekon is a word like moon and star. Guess who does not care about moon and star / ergenekon ?

9.       duskahvesi
858 posts
 10 Jul 2008 Thu 01:15 am

i guess u dont follow turkish news..

1)hrant dink was an armanian.. he was not working for cumhuriyet2 ideas (i mean cumhuriyet newspaper not the regime).. cumhuriyet , daily newspaper, supports always military ideas, against civil management, it is believed that ever foreign person tries to seperate turkey.. the "putschist" was meeting at cumhuriyet writer's home.. still try that! they dnt believe in democracy...


2)he was working another newspaper , called "Agos".. and it is against for racism, military management and against Armanian Disperson's idea.. The converse of cumhuriyet...

3) the serial number of bombs were the same which was thrown to cumhuriyet was the same that another bombs was found at ergonekon's home in umraniye/istanbul.. this bomb was taken to be used fror turkish military but somehow they disappeared.. another bombs was used to bomb to Council of State has the same serial numbers..

4)the killer of hrant dink was confessed that information was given to military and police before they killed him... even though he would not be killed, some soldiers confessed that the colonel "ali öz" in bilecik knew this intention but ali öz said to they " we can talk it later" than never talked...

5)this investigation was began to find bombs in umraniye, nearly 1 year ago.. before the closing case about AKP..timing is important but generally this is not taken care..

6) Civil management can't arrest people.. police find the guilt, make them go to the court in 24 hours and the judge have to decide guilty or not in 48 hours.. otherwise the guilty is free.. the rule is certsin for everyone.. so how AKP can send those people to the jail???

10.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 10 Jul 2008 Thu 03:53 am

Quoting duskahvesi:


1)hrant dink was an armanian.. he was not working for cumhuriyet2 ideas (i mean cumhuriyet newspaper not the regime).. cumhuriyet , daily newspaper, supports always military ideas, against civil management, it is believed that ever foreign person tries to seperate turkey.. the "putschist" was meeting at cumhuriyet writer's home.. still try that! they dnt believe in democracy...


- Where did i write that hrant dink was working for cumhuriyet newspaper? i just said that he was friend of cumhuriyet writers, if you watched the news, at his funeral, you could see cumhuriyet writers that says they are sorry for him to die.

And you have no idea about cumhuriyet, cumhuriyet is republic. Cumhuriyet newspaper supports republic. And lets look at what the republic is :republic is a state or country that is not led by a hereditary monarch, but in which the people (or at least a part of its people)have impact on its government.

Quoting duskahvesi:


2)he was working another newspaper , called "Agos".. and it is against for racism, military management and against Armanian Disperson's idea.. The converse of cumhuriyet...


- he is AGAINST armanien diasporas idea. yeas that's true. and that's why cumhuriyet writers like him. How can it be the converse of cumhuriyet ? Cumhuriyet newspaper supports armanian diaspoara ? Do you know what the cumhuriyet(republic) is? You know chinese is also an example of republic ( republic of china ),does army/military manages china ? u make me laugh (:

Quoting duskahvesi:


3) the serial number of bombs were the same which was thrown to cumhuriyet was the same that another bombs was found at ergonekon's home in umraniye/istanbul.. this bomb was taken to be used fror turkish military but somehow they disappeared.. another bombs was used to bomb to Council of State has the same serial numbers..


- (we know that bombed newspaper is cumhuriyet.)So you are saying military is from ergenekon. Cumhuriyet is from ergenekon,also cumhuriyet supports military.and military bombs cumhuriyet ha ? so they are bombing each other? so where is the problem if both are bad ?

Quoting duskahvesi:


4)the killer of hrant dink was confessed that information was given to military and police before they killed him... even though he would not be killed, some soldiers confessed that the colonel "ali öz" in bilecik knew this intention but ali öz said to they " we can talk it later" than never talked...


- military does not have a right about it.military can just report it to president. You know that president is also the top of the military(also from AkPP in Turkey-mr abdullah) When someone threatens you, do you call the police or military ? of course police. And guess in istanbul, manager of the police department is from which party ? also try to figure it out how the AKPP's newspaper know the arretments before anyone else ?

Quoting duskahvesi:


5)this investigation was began to find bombs in umraniye, nearly 1 year ago.. before the closing case about AKP..timing is important but generally this is not taken care..


- That does not make sense, in turkey this kind of things happens from time to time. now american embassy was attacked, will you say that this is also from ergenekon?/timing is important again.

Quoting duskahvesi:


6) Civil management can't arrest people.. police find the guilt, make them go to the court in 24 hours and the judge have to decide guilty or not in 48 hours.. otherwise the guilty is free.. the rule is certsin for everyone.. so how AKP can send those people to the jail?


- The rule is just for the ones against AKPP. ok then saying "sayin abdullah ocalan" is crime. Many of the DTPP senators are judged. Why nobody judged Recep t. erdogan ? he is also a senator. even its proved that he said that.

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