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What is Ergenekon?
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10.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 10 Jul 2008 Thu 03:53 am

Quoting duskahvesi:


1)hrant dink was an armanian.. he was not working for cumhuriyet2 ideas (i mean cumhuriyet newspaper not the regime).. cumhuriyet , daily newspaper, supports always military ideas, against civil management, it is believed that ever foreign person tries to seperate turkey.. the "putschist" was meeting at cumhuriyet writer's home.. still try that! they dnt believe in democracy...


- Where did i write that hrant dink was working for cumhuriyet newspaper? i just said that he was friend of cumhuriyet writers, if you watched the news, at his funeral, you could see cumhuriyet writers that says they are sorry for him to die.

And you have no idea about cumhuriyet, cumhuriyet is republic. Cumhuriyet newspaper supports republic. And lets look at what the republic is :republic is a state or country that is not led by a hereditary monarch, but in which the people (or at least a part of its people)have impact on its government.

Quoting duskahvesi:


2)he was working another newspaper , called "Agos".. and it is against for racism, military management and against Armanian Disperson's idea.. The converse of cumhuriyet...


- he is AGAINST armanien diasporas idea. yeas that's true. and that's why cumhuriyet writers like him. How can it be the converse of cumhuriyet ? Cumhuriyet newspaper supports armanian diaspoara ? Do you know what the cumhuriyet(republic) is? You know chinese is also an example of republic ( republic of china ),does army/military manages china ? u make me laugh (:

Quoting duskahvesi:


3) the serial number of bombs were the same which was thrown to cumhuriyet was the same that another bombs was found at ergonekon's home in umraniye/istanbul.. this bomb was taken to be used fror turkish military but somehow they disappeared.. another bombs was used to bomb to Council of State has the same serial numbers..


- (we know that bombed newspaper is cumhuriyet.)So you are saying military is from ergenekon. Cumhuriyet is from ergenekon,also cumhuriyet supports military.and military bombs cumhuriyet ha ? so they are bombing each other? so where is the problem if both are bad ?

Quoting duskahvesi:


4)the killer of hrant dink was confessed that information was given to military and police before they killed him... even though he would not be killed, some soldiers confessed that the colonel "ali öz" in bilecik knew this intention but ali öz said to they " we can talk it later" than never talked...


- military does not have a right about it.military can just report it to president. You know that president is also the top of the military(also from AkPP in Turkey-mr abdullah) When someone threatens you, do you call the police or military ? of course police. And guess in istanbul, manager of the police department is from which party ? also try to figure it out how the AKPP's newspaper know the arretments before anyone else ?

Quoting duskahvesi:


5)this investigation was began to find bombs in umraniye, nearly 1 year ago.. before the closing case about AKP..timing is important but generally this is not taken care..


- That does not make sense, in turkey this kind of things happens from time to time. now american embassy was attacked, will you say that this is also from ergenekon?/timing is important again.

Quoting duskahvesi:


6) Civil management can't arrest people.. police find the guilt, make them go to the court in 24 hours and the judge have to decide guilty or not in 48 hours.. otherwise the guilty is free.. the rule is certsin for everyone.. so how AKP can send those people to the jail?


- The rule is just for the ones against AKPP. ok then saying "sayin abdullah ocalan" is crime. Many of the DTPP senators are judged. Why nobody judged Recep t. erdogan ? he is also a senator. even its proved that he said that.

11.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 10 Jul 2008 Thu 05:03 am

Thanks everyone for the above.. Interesting readings

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