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1.       MissHelen
148 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 02:54 pm

What is the purpose of the suffix -ki? I can see that it is like -ken in the sense that it doesn't follow the vowel harmony rules.

However, I cannot make it clear to myself why it is used, for example:

"Bu sınıftaki en güzel kız benim"

Why not just

"Bu sınıfta en güzel kız benim"

Looking forward to your help, clever people.

H.

2.       deli
5904 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 05:20 pm

Quoting MissHelen:

What is the purpose of the suffix -ki? I can see that it is like -ken in the sense that it doesn't follow the vowel harmony rules.

However, I cannot make it clear to myself why it is used, for example:

"Bu sınıftaki en güzel kız benim"

Why not just

"Bu sınıfta en güzel kız benim"

Looking forward to your help, clever people.

H.

in this sentence i think ki means which is in the class?

3.       MissHelen
148 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 05:30 pm

...can you put that in the context of the whole sentence for me? Sorry to be dim, just that still doesn't make sense to me...

H.

4.       deli
5904 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 05:39 pm

Bu sınıftaki en güzel kız benim
i am the most beautiful girl that/ which is in this class ?

5.       MissHelen
148 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 06:07 pm

Kinda like a noun clause in English then?

Hmmmn...ok.

Thank you!

H.

6.       deli
5904 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 06:12 pm

birsey degil ama belki beklemelisin e kadar baskasi daha iyi turkce konusma benden

7.       Elisa
0 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 06:21 pm

Here is some more information. I haven't read it myself yet, just found it, but I know what to do tonight!!

The suffix -ki

I can already say that the suffix -ki has nothing to do with the conjunction -ki-

8.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 06:31 pm

The suffix -ki- is used in many ways, all i know is that one of the meanings is a bit like: 'that is situated in'.
I haven;t really covered that topic of grammar yet, so i will use this thread to enlarge my own knowledge too
I hope someone can correct my translations.


Istanbuldaki camileri
- The mosques that are (situated) in Istanbul.


Istanbul'da camiler var
- In istanbul there are mosques.


- Nerede gittin?
- Türkiye'ye gittim, Istanbul'da

- Where did you go?
- I went to Turkey, in Istanbul

- Hangi camileri gördün?
- Istanbuldaki

- Which mosques did you see?
- The ones (that are)in Istanbul.

Is this correct?

Can -ki- also take an accusative nounstate?
I mean like this:

- Hangi camileri gördün?
- Istanbuldakiyi gördüm

- Which mosques did you see?
- I saw the ones (that are)in Istanbul.




I hope i could be helpful for you too, Miss Helen.

9.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 07:20 pm

Istanbuldaki camileri
- The mosques that are (situated) in Istanbul.

İSTANBUL'DAKİ CAMİLER is correct


Istanbul'da camiler var
- In istanbul there are mosques.

CORRECT


- Nerede gittin?
- Türkiye'ye gittim, Istanbul'da

- Where did you go?
- I went to Turkey, in Istanbul,

NEREYE GİTTİN
TÜRKİYE'DE İSTANBUL'A GİTTİM is correct

- Hangi camileri gördün?
- Istanbuldaki

- Which mosques did you see?
- The ones (that are)in Istanbul.

HANGİ CAMİLER GÖRDÜN?
İSTANBUL'DAKİ CAMİLERİ GÖRDÜM is correct

10.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 07 Mar 2006 Tue 07:20 pm

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