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Iraqi child is sexually abused by the British soldiers
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 04:15 pm |
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Quoting silversong: I am going to be a grandmother soon, does that mean I am obliged to remove my pic ? |
You can always post a fake picture, or a cartoon... (tamikidakika is doing that too).
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 04:20 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika: We all know that the tc members without picture on their profiles are all 60-something grannies including you |
So you're a 60-something granny? Nothing wrong with that of course.
I know this is shocking... but some women really do not get excited about voyeristic dudus like yourself to evaluate their pictures. And... I know, another shock... some women do not get upset about their age, especially in the west... It's all about the culture you live in - if you live in a staunch patriarchy that hates women, it is reasonable that women fear to reveal their age because they are only seen as reproductive machines that are discarded once used up. Anyway... this lesson is in 4th grade.
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 08:39 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Ok, I understand now. If media publish something about crimes of UN soldiers it's accidental but credible, and if they publish something bad about Muslims it's Jewish propaganda?  |
Never did I claim that all Jewish news is propaganda, some are some are not. For instance
Haaretz
is an excellent news source, as is:
Gush Shalom
So stop trying to paint me as Antisemetic.
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 09:19 pm |
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Alameda, what about this for an eye opener:
Let's look at the facts of Zionist control.
FACT: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, UPN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The
Wall Street Journal, The New York Daily News, Time Magazine, Newsweek,
People Magazine, US News and World Report and countless other media and
Hollywood companies all have either a Zionist CEO, a Zionist News Chief, or
are owned by a media conglomerate which has a Zionist CEO.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=551
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 09:41 pm |
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Quoting Roswitha: Alameda, what about this for an eye opener:
Let's look at the facts of Zionist control.
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=551 |
I reject it as simplistic, just another conspiracy theory like this:
New World Order
or this:
Bilderberg Group
it's never that simple....
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 09:56 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:
GOOD GOD! Do you think I would defend ANYONE for abusing a child?
I was saying that I am proud we have a military police and proud that our media are not censored from reporting such horrible events.
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İ dont think you would defend anyone for abusing a child
But also i dont think there are anything to be proud about here
İts like 2 brothers playing together,and one of them complained to their mothers about something the other did
Mother will get upset for a while,maybe even send him to his room with no dinner,but still
Next day,they will continue to play together
Mother didnt say,its not nice to play by what it doesnt belong to you,and forbid them
Did she ?!
When mother said that,and do that too,i guess not only you should be proud of such mother
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15 Jul 2008 Tue 10:15 pm |
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Quoting silversong: I think it is completely disgusting what this boy had to endure at the hands of his captors. When this sort of incident happens it should be exposed and those responsible should be severly punished. I also agree that we need more transparacy in the military, however do not judge many by the actions of few. I know people in the services who are outraged by this incident. |
+++++++++++++1001  It does nothing but endanger all...and I mean all humanity.
It's very unfortunate, but when kept in conflict for too long the human mind cracks. I read someplace, (can't find a link  now) that the Vikings found when their soldiers were in warfare over a certain period of time they went "berserk". Keeping soldiers in contracted state of mental and physical siege for such an extended length of time is criminal, in my opinion.
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16 Jul 2008 Wed 11:16 am |
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It is inhumane and criminal but let's not forget that 'berserker's rage' resulted in great conquests of the Viking Army. The Romans (whose army was not too bad either) also knew that an angry soldier is a good soldier and thus fed them really poorly (is there a better way to infuriate a guy than that ).
By no means do I defend such treatment of those poor chaps who very often get in the middle of a war not really knowing why they went there. I am just not surprised that war results in dehumanisation - for most of the time you do everything against the values you were brought up to and you live in fear for your own life. It's hard to remain a human being in such conditions. War is not a gentlemen's thing.
If you give too much freedom to soldiers, if you teach them to question orders rather than obey them without questioning, you don't have an army - sad but true. Army is not a democratic institution, it's based on hierarchy and blind obedience.
Yet, it is no excuse of violence like rape or killing civilians, crimes that are against army code and should be unconditionally prosecuted.
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