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Long awaited Ergenekon case
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1.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 14 Jul 2008 Mon 09:48 pm

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a crime network including journalists, academics, political party leaders, civil society figures, former and possibly current army officers, including generals, seeking to cause chaos in Turkey and lead to a coup -
..Ergenekon investigation revealed that some retired generals had attempted to stage three coup plans, codenamed Sarıkız, Ayışığı and Eldiven, between the years 2002 and 2004 against the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government. The indictment, according to yesterday's reports, also mentions a fourth coup plan devised in November of 2002 by a circle formed under the gendarmerie forces called the Republican Study Group, similar to the Western Study Group, formed in ..
..
claims Ergenekon operations were behind the killing of a senior judge in a 2006 shooting at the Council of State and the assassination of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, who was shot dead by an ultranationalist teenager in January 2007. The prosecutors say the Dink assassination and the Council of State shooting were operations of the group as it planned to stage attacks and murders that would create "chaos in the country."
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In addition to retired generals Eruygur and Uğur, retired Gen. Veli Küçük, who was the leader of an ultranationalist organization in his civilian life, and Gen. Hurşit Tolon, a former chief of the 1st Army, are also currently under arrest. However, they are not the only suspects with a military background. Eruygur also heads a seemingly civil society organization called the Atatürkist Thought Association (ADD), which organized massive rallies against the government in major cities last year. ...


http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=147498

2.       MrX67
2540 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 01:22 am

both possibilites horrible for our country,either if theres and this sort organization or if thesn't such a thing.İ think our country passing from a hard bridge lately,hope we can cross to other side from this bridge in safe at the end???

3.       KeithL
1455 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 03:55 am

Handsom...as always, thank you for educating us on PKK and Ergenekon. Your perspective always leaves us with something to think...

4.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 03:59 am

Quoting KeithL:

Handsom...as always, thank you for educating us on PKK and Ergenekon. Your perspective always leaves us with something to think...


I think you should speak only for yourself Keith.. Everybody has the right to post their perspective here without being ostracized. That's what we've been fighting for, right?

5.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 04:53 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

Handsom...as always, thank you for educating us on PKK and Ergenekon. Your perspective always leaves us with something to think...


I think you should speak only for yourself Keith.. Everybody has the right to post their perspective here without being ostracized. That's what we've been fighting for, right?



Excuse me, but I think you are jumping on Keith. He did not say anything negative. You have filled in any blanks with what you "think" he means.

6.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 05:16 am

Quoting alameda:

Excuse me, but I think you are jumping on Keith. He did not say anything negative. You have filled in any blanks with what you "think" he means.


Actually, it is rather clear that Keith's message was somewhat sarcastic. And I simply said that he should only speak for himself if Thehandsom's perspective always leaves him with something to think. I don't think my message was offensive to Keith and he can clarify his post if the sarcasm was accidental and then I can take back what I said.

7.       KeithL
1455 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 05:23 am

I take no offence to Catwoman coming to handsome's rescue...

And I only speak for myself, no one elses.
I support hansome's right here to post sympathetic posts to PKK and anti nationalist Turk posts. 100%

8.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 05:25 am

Quoting KeithL:

I take no offence to Catwoman coming to handsome's rescue...


Thank you! I remember coming to your rescue as well at some point!

9.       KeithL
1455 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 05:27 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

I take no offence to Catwoman coming to handsome's rescue...


Thank you! I remember coming to your rescue as well at some point!



Please, I need all the help I can get!!!

10.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 05:33 am

Quoting KeithL:

Please, I need all the help I can get!!!


No need to get dramatic. We are talking about alleged "taking sides" here. And I think I am rather objective!

11.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 07:38 am

It`s reported that "Ergenekon" is a 600 years old crime organization.


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/9435722.asp?m=1


and now we have to believe in all this crap or we may get jailed for being an ergenekon member as well.

12.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Jul 2008 Tue 11:59 am

Quoting KeithL:

I take no offence to Catwoman coming to handsome's rescue...

And I only speak for myself, no one elses.
I support hansome's right here to post sympathetic posts to PKK and anti nationalist Turk posts. 100%


They are not "sympathetic posts to PKK".
But they are 'slap on the face of ultra nationalists'.
Because they deserve it!! lol

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