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20.       tatysugi
4 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 04:28 am

Quote:

"Thx, but my confusion is when to use ´te´ rather than ´de´ for example."

 

Janine, I have the same doubt: when should I use _te or _de? Are they the same in meaning and in usage?

21.       Henry
2604 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 06:35 am

Hi, here is the rule about when you change the suffixes starting with ´d´ to a ´t´ and other changes. (note that the suffix still has the same meaning)

The following is copied from a later lesson in Section 2 on Consonant Harmony.

CASE B - Suffix mutation.

Two conditions must be satisfied for suffix mutation to occur:

  1. You have a word ending with one of ´p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş´.
  2. You want to add a suffix to this word and the suffix starts with ´c´ or ´d´.

In this case, the first letter of the suffix changes.

  • c becomes ç
  • d becomes t

Examples:

köpekten (from the dog)

köpeğinden (from his dog)

sokaktan (from the street)

sokaklardan (from the streets)

 

So in summary, words ending in´p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş´ will use the ´ten, tan, te, ta´ suffix endings, and all the other letters that end words will use the ´den,dan,de,da´ suffixes.

 

22.       justinetime
1018 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:58 am

i´m confused... i did the first section which was only two homeworks at first... now that i check on it again... the 1st section has changed.... does that mean i missed doing some assignments last week?.. i guess i have to catch up...

23.       justinetime
1018 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 09:03 am

is it section 2 this week? i missed a few assignments for section one... i could still submit it right?

24.       catwoman
8933 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 09:04 am

 

Quoting justinetime

is it section 2 this week? i missed a few assignments for section one... i could still submit it right?

 

Yes, you can still submit it.

25.       janine
11 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 10:06 am

Thx Henry! I thought i had missed part of the lesson because it seemed to be part of our homework in section 1- so that´s a relief!!

26.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 07:53 pm

Ile means: with, by or and. When the meaning is ´by´ as in ´by car´ it become a suffix -le or -la. Does that mean that in the meanings ´with´ or ´and´ it is not a suffix bt stands by itself as a word?

27.       sonunda
5004 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:04 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Ile means: with, by or and. When the meaning is ´by´ as in ´by car´ it become a suffix -le or -la. Does that mean that in the meanings ´with´ or ´and´ it is not a suffix bt stands by itself as a word?

 

It is still be added as a suffix when it means ´with´

eg arkadaşlarımla    with my friends

benimle   with me

 

I think when it means ´and´ it´s a separate word.

eg Stella ile Trudy geliyorlar     Stella and Trudy are coming.

28.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:24 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

It is still be added as a suffix when it means ´with´

eg arkadaşlarımla    with my friends

benimle   with me

 

I think when it means ´and´ it´s a separate word.

eg Stella ile Trudy geliyorlar     Stella and Trudy are coming.

 

 Thanks Sonunda.

29.       Jetsetter
76 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:32 pm

Are punctuation marks a must to turkish words like istanbul´dan?

30.       Trudy
7887 posts
 18 Aug 2008 Mon 08:43 pm

 

Quoting Jetsetter

Are punctuation marks a must to turkish words like istanbul´dan?

 

 You mean ´ ? Yes, a geographic name always gets that punctuation mark.

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