Students in uzeyir´s group:

1. alameda

2. smiley

3. Jetsetter

4. tinababy

5. justintime

6. Trudy

7. tatysugi

8. janine

Here you can ask questions to your teacher and talk to fellow classmates.

i´m really looking forward for this.... gosh... i´m really happy

ok!!! When do we start?

You can do your homework anytime and your teacher will check them

By time

In the first excercise of nouns there are 3 sentences:

Biz İstanbul´da yaşıyoruz.
Ali parkda top oynuyor.
Kitap masada duruyor.

The first I have no idea what we are doing in Istanbul, the second is Ali plays football in the park (I know after you told me, Uzeyir) and the third is the book stays on the table.

My problem with these verbs is that I have no idea what they mean. I think I know the reason though, if I make the infinitive of these conjugations I can look it up in the dictionary online. But.... there are sometimes so many options that I get confused and don´t know which meaning to choose. Besides that, some verbs excist of 2 words, something I don´t know upfront. See sentence 2: oynuyor comes from oynamak but it seems i need to use the word top as well. That all makes it very difficult to understand the meaning. How can I learn this better? Are there any tricks?

Biz İstanbul´da yaşıyoruz. : We live in İstanbul.

If I were you,I´d get my dictionary and try to conjugate the infinitive verbs.

Like this;

oynamak : to play

oynuyorum : I´m playing / I play

oynadım : I (have) played.

The conjugation is not really the problem. The fact that one verb has more meanings is one problem - which do I need to choose? - and the other is that a verb consist from 2 words, like telefon etmek, where is many cases I don´t know they belong together and thus I can´t find them in the dictionary. My question is: is there a trick to learn this sooner?

Hi Trudy,

I don´t think there are any tricks to learn this fast .As a begginer I double-click on word,look at EVERYTHING written in dictionary under my chosen word and then I pick out the nearest meaning. .Sometimes it helps if you have a little clue of whole sentence.

About "telefon etmek";this is in dictionary,at least in Turkish Dictionary for Language Learners which you can download from home page of TC.Very usefull thing,believe me.

ok... forgive my ignorance, but where do i submit my homework? there is part that says add answer, but it is being posted in public.... so... i´m not sure how it all works yet...

 It´s not public. Only the teacher can view your answers. Just use the ´add answer´ button, fill in your answers and submit. You´ll see then the original homework, your answer below that and after evaluation the corrects answers below that too, so three in a row.

oh thank you for making it clear to me... ...

I was looking at the homework assignments for the coming week and besides doing it, I´d like to translate the sentences and words as well, thus increasing my vocabulary. I know güzel means beautiful but in what way is ´güzel mi´ a sentence as stated in one of the excersises? Does it mean ´are you beautiful´ or ´who/what is beautiful´? Maybe silly to ask but I couldn´t make a real sentence from just these two words.

Hi Trudy,

I hope this helps your understanding a bit.

Güzel mi? Is a question asking ´Is he/she/it beautiful?´ 

The homework is there to test your understanding of vowel harmony for question words.

As always the more you learn, the more questions you have to ask to help understand things.

In the Beginner 2 group, the Section 2, ( Homework 2) has examples of questions in first person, second person, third person variations.

Examples

Güzel miyim? (Am I beautiful?) (mi + buffer ´y´ + ´im" 1st person singular suffix)

Güzel misin? (Are you beautiful?) (mi + ´sin´ 2nd person singular informal suffix)

Thanks Henry, now I see. The vowel part I find not difficult but I have problems to learn and reproduce vocab (I´m too old I guess....   ) so that´s why I want to translate as an exercise as well.

I seem to have missed something..... with locative and ablative, when do we use te, ta, ten, tan?

Isn´t it the same as -de, -da, -den and -dan? In that case: http://www.turkishclass.com/tl_lesson.php?lesson_id=66

More over locative and ablative comes in section 3, so from August 25th.

Thx, but my confusion is when to use ´te´ rather than ´de´ for example. ....

Janine, I have the same doubt: when should I use _te or _de? Are they the same in meaning and in usage?

Hi, here is the rule about when you change the suffixes starting with ´d´ to a ´t´ and other changes. (note that the suffix still has the same meaning)

The following is copied from a later lesson in Section 2 on Consonant Harmony.

CASE B - Suffix mutation.

Two conditions must be satisfied for suffix mutation to occur:

1. You have a word ending with one of ´p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş´.
2. You want to add a suffix to this word and the suffix starts with ´c´ or ´d´.

In this case, the first letter of the suffix changes.

• c becomes ç
• d becomes t

Examples:

köpekten (from the dog)

köpeğinden (from his dog)

sokaktan (from the street)

sokaklardan (from the streets)

So in summary, words ending in´p, ç, t, k, f, h, s, ş´ will use the ´ten, tan, te, ta´ suffix endings, and all the other letters that end words will use the ´den,dan,de,da´ suffixes.

i´m confused... i did the first section which was only two homeworks at first... now that i check on it again... the 1st section has changed.... does that mean i missed doing some assignments last week?.. i guess i have to catch up...

is it section 2 this week? i missed a few assignments for section one... i could still submit it right?

Yes, you can still submit it.

Thx Henry! I thought i had missed part of the lesson because it seemed to be part of our homework in section 1- so that´s a relief!!

Ile means: with, by or and. When the meaning is ´by´ as in ´by car´ it become a suffix -le or -la. Does that mean that in the meanings ´with´ or ´and´ it is not a suffix bt stands by itself as a word?

It is still be added as a suffix when it means ´with´

eg arkadaşlarımla    with my friends

benimle   with me

I think when it means ´and´ it´s a separate word.

eg Stella ile Trudy geliyorlar     Stella and Trudy are coming.

 Thanks Sonunda.

Are punctuation marks a must to turkish words like istanbul´dan?

 You mean ´ ? Yes, a geographic name always gets that punctuation mark.

 Actually, it´s any proper noun - names of places and people.

yea the apostrophe ´

çok teşekkur ederim Trudy ve Lady In Red

Good point Trudy, it would be good to have a few sample exercises with translations to review and get to understand better.

Merhaba!

I´m kind of lost in the verb conjugation for this week. I agree completely with Trudy: we need vocabulary translation and some explanations about verb conjugation.

I´d also like to point out that the different labeling of grammar points got me a bit confused last week.

Teşekkür ederim!

Taty

 Hi,

I´m also a bit lost this week: I think the homework needs some kind of context please. Maybe I´m just being dense this morning???

Tina

´Güzel mi?´ means ´Is it nice/Is it good/Is it beautiful.  ´Güzel´ on it´s own means ´it is good/nice/beautiful.

If you wanted to say ´you are beautiful´ it is ´güzelsin´ so ´are you beautiful?´ is ´güzel misin?´  adjective + person ending + question marker (which goes before personal ending)

´I am beautiful´ = ´Güzelim´.  ´Am I beautiful?´ = ´Güzel miyim?´ (with buffer ´y´ and so on...

Last week I was lost! took an entire day to do the homework and i´m pretty sure i forgot numerous rules.....

This one confused me especially-

Onlar müzisyendi. Is it those were musician ? or they were musician ? How can u tell the difference?

Also do we not need to make musicians plural?

Sorry if it´s a stupid question......

gosh... i´m having my exams, so got delayed here on tc... i gotto catch up... :S :S :S...

I´m doing the assignments regarding the To be sections both present & past tense.

I did sentences using the words stated there but i got confused in adding the -dir, -dır, -dur, -dür.  Can somebody make some clarifications regarding the use, or rather, the rules in using these suffixes.

Awaiting answers and thanks in advance.

The suffixes change according to the vowel harmony rules.

 thanks for a very prompt reply

sorry!!