that freaks me out when you post a long article from an online source and put no comment at all. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

 Actually Ros, it would be interesting to see your opinion of this article.

Why would anybody in the whole world deny their own culture roots and religion???? For social status? That ahs nothing to do with it!!!! Are you (the article) saying that to be of turkuish roots is shameeful?!?! Or taht to have roots is something shameful? I get the part about the brands and stuff (im obseessed, {from shampoo to accessories }) Butthats so wierd! And do you say taht turkish people only use the people they know for sociual status, i think whoever wrote this article generalizes A LOT!!!

Ros is not the only member who posts articles without personal comment.  This is her style and she has posted many interesting articles,  that many members have enjoyed reading, although admittedly some are more controversial than others. 

If giving some personal comment alongside an article is against the rules then perhaps a general reminder to all members, (on a sticky perhaps) is more appropriate than an individual one. 

Thank you for your input and advice on moderating - I don´t think anything was mentioned about ´giving some personal comment alongside an article beıng agaınst the rules´  Tamıkıdakıka asked why Ros did not post a comment - as - of course - he is perfectly entitled to.  I merely asked her if she had any comment.

 You´re welcome, anytime

You have misquoted me . . . my sentence was:

"If giving some personal comment alongside . . ." 

IMO you didn´t "merely" ask Ros if she "had any comment", what you said was:

"Actually Ros, it would be interesting to see your opinion of this article." 

and it seems open to more than one interpretation of the intention.

I don´t think you need to defend Tam as I never commented on his post, because,  as you say, he is entitled to his opinion and there seemed nothing wrong with what he said.  

Of course we´re all entitled to state our opinions, and we all do.

 I´ve made the points I wanted to make. 

Thanks.

I didn´t missquote you at all - I just highlighted the bit that said ´giving some personal comment alongside ....etc.´  SURELY you meant to say ´if NOT giving some personal comment is against the rules....´ didn´t you?  Your error not mine .

You can interpret what I say in whatever way you wish but I thought I was being polite.

I was not defending Tamiki - he is certainly not a member who needs defending - I was just agreeing with his opinion about ´no comment´.

I don´t think I said you had made an error, I said you had misquoted me, in that you missed out "If" which was an important part of the sentence (as was "not" which I forgot to include, but you understood my point) .  Yes my error, I meant to include the word "not", but that didn´t alter my point.

Of course your comment looked polite.

When I referred to your defending Tam, I didn´t mean in your original post, I was referring to your reply to my post.

That´s all.

should I take this as a compliment?

Unfortunately such caring and hospitality as described in this article  is  unheard of in Germany.

Why you are criticizing Roswitha? Does  the topic bother you? There are lots of negative topics about Turkey. Some were also posted by Roswitha.  It is a choice of the individual, don´t you agree.Some people will comment and some won´t.

It´s a valid point.  It would be much more interesting to see what the poster´s opinion is on the topic they are posting instead of just seeing post after post of copies of articles. 

CGG are absolutely delightful

 Yes!

 I agree.  It´s personal choice and as a reader of posts it doesn´t matter to me whether there´s a comment by the poster or not.  As I´ve said before, Ros is not the only member that has this style.  Some members merely add the comment that they found the article "interesting" and this too does not give anything away about their personal view of the issue/s raised in the article.  They may also ask members what they think of the article. Other members will give their opinion alongside  the articles they share.

For me, the interest  is in the articles themselves and the level of interest from other members will obviously vary.  Reading them helps people to nurture their own ideas about issues in the world, but that doesn´t mean they have to share them in public.  I think it´s about personal growth, not debate, for many members here.  Of course some articles are simply vignettes of information, which don´t always require a supporting comment, because it´s posted as entertainment in itself.  The other extreme is the firwork display mentality, "light the blue touch paper and stand well back".  Mostly, everyone is somewhere in the middle.  However, whilst I obviously don´t agree with everything everyone posts and sometimes it´s annoying, I do recognise they have a right to post in their own style . . . it´s diversity and who could possible be against diversity of style?

It seems to me, it´s the comments (or lack of in this case) that cause the arguments  most of the time. And, for the record, I don´t exclude myself from that (just in case someone decides to comment on my "hypocrisy" or the blackness of my "pot").

If posters want to risk speculation about their views on the articles they post, that´s their choice. 

Just as everyone has the right to their opinion, they also have their "right to remain silent". 

 Glad to hear it!

Modify:  But it seems it wasn´t after all!

 Well, you know me

btw, I see more personal comments are being added alongside articles posted, since your comment to Roswitha.

Well done! 

A perfectly good article, and here we go again nit-picking the precious grammatical terms used in what everybody thinks a person´s intended or unintended meaning meant for 2 or 3 pages.   This seems to happen all the time.

Perhaps I am completely dumb, I don´t often pick up on so called unintended meanings - it seems pretty obvious that all is requested is simply a thought or opinion from Ros on her own posting, there was no criticism of Ros, or the article, just a request for Ros´s idea - which she gave (Thanks Ros).

Why is it that so many posts here go off on tennis matches against so called misunderstandings and nit-pickings!

Agree!  Is it game set and match yet?  Not sure who has come out the winner, or maybe the game is not yet over.  But I too enjoyed the article as this is the experience I have had with all but a few turkish people. 

And as for Tami (I can never remember the whole of your nic, sorry!) .......... Ros is not being sarcastic, you obviously don´t know her well enough yet!   You should stop being so sensitive and always thinking that we are always critising or being sarcastic about Turkey!

Ive just returned home from 4 of the strangest days of my life. On saturday me and my freind (also TC memeber) Flew to Hatay. The reason for my journey was to find my friend who I heard was in Serinyol Antakya visiting his relatives as he usually works abroad. We arrived in Hatay at 1 am so we got a taxi to  a hotel  about 15 miles away from the airport called hotel dedeman. When we got there, they didnt have any availability. We were stuck so we had no choice but to get walking. We started to walk for about 15 minutes when an old man parked up in a van stopped us and asked what we were doing. My turkish was limited and he did not speak english for some reason we got buy and managed to understand he took us to the local turk telecom office where there were 2 security guards the 2 guards took us to a room and gave us a key and said we could stay there for the night. We had a shower changed our clothes and Samet 1 of the guards bought us a drink. at 5am Samet said his uncle was driving past Serinyol and could take us to my friends village. So at about 5:30am we arrived in Serinyol it was dark we were in a village we didnt know. We walked the srreets trying to figure out which house was my friends and we searched for the street name aswell as dodging seriously low flying bats and being chased by agrivated dogs. Despite our searching we couldnt find my friends house. It started to get lighter we were waking up a small road where a young man stopped his car and asked us what we were doing. We explained and it turned out that he was a good friend of the person i was looking for. As it was so early this man named Erdem took us to his home and all of his family welcomed us, he gave us a room the family also made a meal and a few hours later Erdem reunited me with my long lost friend. The people in Antakya were so hospitable and friendly we would have been lost without their help.

Sorry I dropped off to sleep - did Peacetrain say something?

Britturk,

thanks for sharing your delightful "Turkish experience" with us! A true example of Turkish hospitality.

Although I think the article is a bit exaggerated (as journalists do) it has some truths to it.  Turkish people are VERY hospital and yes there are snobs around too, extreme snobs.  But hey if we were all the same how boring would that be ! 

You´ll find both kinds of people in all countries

 Snobs?  I always thought that was "very British"

 Absolutely true ! 

I think that after reading all this some of you just like writting on here for the sake of it! Sorry

Re: snobs I have been exposed to snobbery in France, Spain, Britain, Germany and some Arab countries included

People in New York who are snobs sometimes hire French people as nannies for their children because French people have more culture and are prettier and have more money.

Who says?