Hi, I am a bit confused, although I have known for a long time that ´adet´ is similar to ´tane´ in its use I have only ever seen adet written in shops and markets and on packaging, I have never actually heard anyone use the word.   However whilst I was staying with some friends one of them used it, and I remarked that I hadn´t heard it used before.   We were at the time playing a game using ´OKAY´ tiles but slightly diferent in its rules.  Later, when we were counting the scores the lady in question said she had scored 5, but as she had five tiles that was imposible as the value of each tile counts.   She then used the word again saying "I thought it was the ´ADET´ that counted, and then said to me, now that is an example of when we cannot say ´TANE´, obviously the conversation was taking place in Turkish, but my friends could not explain to me the ´rule´.

I cannot quite explain it but I feel its possibly something to do with the subject not being spoken ie the amount being more important than the ´thing´.

Completely confused, any help??

Can´t you tell us the word which we cannot use that your friends say? If I know such an example, I may try to explan the difference, but as far as I know, we can use "tane" always, but maybe not adet always.

I don´t think there is a difference between adet and tane. I use both but I think adet is more formal.

Hi, this is a trick of Turkish Language Council.. Their duty was to get rid of the foreign words and use the real Turkish ones instead.. So they enforced this rule for many words.. Some worked, some didn´t.. So while we were growing up, we used more tane than adet.. but our elders kept on using adet.. I guess that´s why you still here adet in some places, but more often tane.  There is no difference in between.. It´s only that you get used to hearing it one way, and the other one doesn´t seem to be correct..  Otherwise there is no rule.

Agree they are synonyms.  On invoices for book orders, it is more usual for publishers to use Adet or Adedi on the heading for the column for number of copies.

If you prolong the first vowel of adet its means: custom and period (of mensturation).

Thanks very much for your explanations.   It appears that it was as I had originally understood.   The only thing I don´t understand now is why the young lady confused me in the beginning!  I have spent ages looking through grammer books and the like to try and find an explanation.

Just to clarify what was said to me, it was the end of a game when the value of each tile that a player is left with in their hand is added together and becomes thier score, the lady said she had scored 5, but she had five tiles and we explained that she must add the´values´ of each tile to find her score, her reply was  "pardon, zannettim adet (maybe adedi) sayýldý".  Then she said that this was an occasion when ´tane´ couldn´t be used.

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Adet = quantity

x adet = x in quantity like 2 adet = 2 in quantity etc

tane = piece

2 tane ekmek = 2 pieces of breads (means 2 breads)

they have close meanings and in the end you can safely drop both of them anyway

2 adet ekmek = 2 tane ekmek = 2 ekmek = 2 breads

In commercial business "adet" is used. Forexample, you note down your stock, you say "10 adet televizyon, 20 adet bulaþýk makinesi, 5 adet buzdolabý ...). It sounds more professionnal.

bitmek is an intransitive (requires no object) verb and bitirmek is transitive one ( requires an object)

bitmek= come to an end, to be over, to use up something

film bitti = movie has ended

ekmek bitti = no bread is left

iþ bitti = work is over

program bitti = program has ended

okul bitti = the school is over (it is closed)

bitirmek = finish, make it come to an end

iþi bitirdi = he has completed the job

ekmeði bitirdi = he has used all the breads

filmi bitirdi = he has finished the movie

programý bitirdi = he has finished the program

okulu bitirdi = he has finished the school (graduated from the school)

also

sona ermek = to end

program sona erdi = program has ended

ýlýk olanýný beðenir misiniz?

would you like the warm one (not cold not hot)?

ýlýk olanýný ister misiniz? would be better in Turkish.

 When a movie is finished, we say film bitti.  When we say did you finish your food? then it means yemeðini bitirdin mi?  I think if finishing actions happen by themselves, we use bitmek.. but when we do the action we use bitirmek.

Bitmek has also some other meanings, you can check the dictionary for them.

regarding -ýlýk olanýný beðenir misin? can you be more specific about it... what is the first word?   If you can not, then it approximately means something like "would you like the one which is......?"