Living - working in Turkey |
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Living &Pregnancy in Turkey
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 10:10 pm |
Good luck. You will feel at home, don´t worry.
Thanks!
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:12 pm |
Oh sweety, you think I also dont talk about what I know? Of course I know of many people who go there for cheap plastic surgery - even the English Turks return there for cheap surgery (not because of it´s quality, but the price!).
Our dear departed Lyndie also talked about offering accommodation to those "recovering" from their cheap Turkish surgery!!!
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:13 pm |
Well, that´s one way to put it. But he only got that far because because he repressed his kurdish side
He does not need to repress anything, because there´s no need to reveal and emphasize your ethnic origin. Do you know that in Turkey it´s not very possible to find a "real ethnic Turk", most of the people have different origins, laz, circassian, bulgar, greek, armenian, arab, kurd, russian, georgian, iranian,jewish and so many different ethnics, with different amounts. So why would it be different for Kurds? For centuries, you have been living together and you are similar. No one asks about ethnics in Turkey because there´s no need to know it. So what would you expect the president to say, "I´m a Kurd"?, and so what?
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:15 pm |
He does not need to repress anything, because there´s no need to reveal and emphasize your ethnic origin. Do you know that in Turkey it´s not very possible to find a "real ethnic Turk", most of the people have different origins, there´re many people turkish-kurdish as well. So for centuries, you have been living together and you are similar. No one asks about ethnics in Turkey because there´s no need to know it.
Strange
From what I hear the Turkish police need a lesson from Meltem in "living together" and "no one asks about ethnics" - they target and discriminate against Kurds on a regular basis ......
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:18 pm |
He does not need to repress anything, because there´s no need to reveal and emphasize your ethnic origin. Do you know that in Turkey it´s not very possible to find a "real ethnic Turk", most of the people have different origins, there´re many people turkish-kurdish as well. So for centuries, you have been living together and you are similar. No one asks about ethnics in Turkey because there´s no need to know it.
when we were living together for centuries, no one was screaming to their faces ´How glorious to be a Turk´ or telling them ´if you dont say it you are my enemy´..
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:18 pm |
scriminate against Kurds on a regular basis ......
Could you give us more details about this discrimination that is on regular basis?
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:20 pm |
scriminate against Kurds on a regular basis ......
Could you give us more details about this discrimination that is on regular basis?
Sure. If you are Kurdish, you are treated as a potential PKK terrorist. You have to show your identity card far more often than non-Kurds and are subjected to verbal abuse by police.
You don´t know this?
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:24 pm |
Mltm for you:
The heart of the problem:
So, here is the summary: In this country, you cannot say “Happy Bayram” in Kurdish. But you can say “cleanse the Kurdish microbes” in Turkish.
All this, once again, brings us to the heart of our problem: The Turkish Republic exists in order to protect its ideology, not its citizens. The only good citizens are those who fit into the official ideology.
Rest is here:
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/editorial.php?ed=mustafa_akyol
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:24 pm |
when we were living together for centuries, no one was screaming to their faces ´How glorious to be a Turk´ or telling them ´if you dont say it you are my enemy´..
There are racists every where, in Turkey as well. There´re racist people in Turkey, no one can deny it, but do not state it as there´s a real racism in Turkey because there´s not.
The intention of this statement is obvious and it´s far from being racist, and the fact that this statement have been being used by racists does not make it a racist statement in its origin. Because The intention was to unite people not to divide.
As I said there´s no pure Turk. I doubt if one can come up with his/her pure turkish genes, because there´s no. So, by being Turk, you understand being a citizen of Turkey, being someone who loves to be a part of this country and its people.
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:28 pm |
There are racists every where, in Turkey as well. There´s racist people in Turkey, no one can deny it, but do not state it as there´s a real racism in Turkey because there´s not.
The intention of this statement is obvious and it´s far from being racist, and the fact that this statement have been using by racists do not make it a racist statement in its origin.
As I said there´s no pure Turk. I doubt if one can come up with his/her pure turkish genes, because there´s no. So, in Turk, you understand being a citizen of Turkey, being someone who loves to be a part of this country and its people.
It is easy for you and I to make such romantic statements about "all living together" Meltem because, frankly, we are on the easy side and do not belong to any ethnic minority.
Certainly I would not write such romantic statements about my country as you did about Turkey because I am aware of racism within my country (including our police force). However, we did not go quite as far as the Turks (i.e. in the past banning their native language and literature) and I am sure you must have Turk/Kurd friends and I am equally sure they do not share quite such a rose-tinted view of being a citizen of Turkey as you do.
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08 Oct 2008 Wed 11:29 pm |
when we were living together for centuries, no one was screaming to their faces ´How glorious to be a Turk´ or telling them ´if you dont say it you are my enemy´..
Because you were the only power in these lands! Thats the problem thehandsom! power! now the other have power! and you have problems! isnt it exact to see?
When you have that power, again the rest will have problems!
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