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20.       teaschip
3870 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 07:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

I am seriously against any type of capital punishments...
I believe that the most basic human right is ´right to life´..Obviously, capital punishment overrules this basic right.
When you add the possibility of errors and unfair judgments, it is a no no from my part..
Apart from being against the capital punishment, Hanging that guy would not do any good to Turkey. It would create a huge blood bath and it could even bring us to a point that ´we Kurds and Turks can not live together any more´.
It was not worth at the time, it will never be.

 

 

As you know I don´t believe in abortion, therefore believe that everyone should have a chance in life.  However, with that being said how many chances do you give a person?  Do you really think taking their freedom away and locking them up is enough punishment?  Look at how many prisoners serve their time are released on parole and find their way back to prison.  Doesn´t seem as though our prison system works either.

 

 

21.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:02 am

Strange, I don´t remember some of these members being against capital punishment when Sadam was executed

 

 

22.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:02 am

More info

One protester dead:

  A protester was killed in the eastern province of Van, reported Agence France-Presse yesterday.

  "One person is dead," a police officer told AFP by telephone. The officer gave no other details on the incidents in the town of Doðubeyazýt.

  It was not immediately clear how the victim, a man, died, but unconfirmed reports said he was shot.

  A police officer was also injured in the fighting and many demonstrators were taken into custody, Anatolia news agency said.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=118052

23.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 12:05 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

More info

One protester dead:

  A protester was killed in the eastern province of Van, reported Agence France-Presse yesterday.

  "One person is dead," a police officer told AFP by telephone. The officer gave no other details on the incidents in the town of Doðubeyazýt.

  It was not immediately clear how the victim, a man, died, but unconfirmed reports said he was shot.

  A police officer was also injured in the fighting and many demonstrators were taken into custody, Anatolia news agency said.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=118052

 

 As it is not clear how the victim died, I presume your sadness is for the police officer? Presumably these are the same protesters who are bombing innocent people as revenge?

24.       raindrops
267 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 01:16 am

guys, is Öcalan still that "popular" in Turkey? I guessed that by now he should be politically dead and buried in oblivion...

 

i remeber the moment when he was arrected. I was little but still see that TV plot in front of me... my mom said - Tukish governmet would kill him and i felt so sorry about him - burning independence fighter... so hard to figure out the real situation when you are out of context

25.       vineyards
1954 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 01:50 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

Strange, I don´t remember some of these members being against capital punishment when Sadam was executed

 

A good point Aenigma...

26.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 07:51 pm

 

Quoting raindrops

guys, is Öcalan still that "popular" in Turkey? I guessed that by now he should be politically dead and buried in oblivion...

 

i remeber the moment when he was arrected. I was little but still see that TV plot in front of me... my mom said - Tukish governmet would kill him and i felt so sorry about him - burning independence fighter... so hard to figure out the real situation when you are out of context

 

He should have been long dead politically but unfortunately, our mistakes kept him and his organization alive..

Actually, I must say that i am getting quite pessimistic about the whole problem.. Some of the intellects are talking about ´we MIGHT be late´ to take the necessary steps for finding a proper solution..

There is a talk about ´Kurds changing hearts about living together´ which is quite scary and dangerous for all of us..Even some columnists are giving advice to politicians such as  ´act NOW or this problem will be talked in UN in near future´..

It seems like it is all going wrong..

27.       raindrops
267 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:23 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

He should have been long dead politically but unfortunately, our mistakes kept him and his organization alive..

Actually, I must say that i am getting quite pessimistic about the whole problem.. Some of the intellects are talking about ´we MIGHT be late´ to take the necessary steps for finding a proper solution..

There is a talk about ´Kurds changing hearts about living together´ which is quite scary and dangerous for all of us..Even some columnists are giving advice to politicians such as  ´act NOW or this problem will be talked in UN in near future´..

It seems like it is all going wrong..

 

hm.. better late than never... you know, quantity of gifted people is constant value. Population is growing, concentration is declining. Hard to find people who can rule countries really well, who can think strategically and make unpopular decisions etc. from other side I am afraid we would call such people tyrants... What country can decide on its own what is better for it without consultations and advices from all over the world?!?!

 

being member here for a while i see that Kurds´ problem is very sensitive issue in Turkey. now I am wondering what i am allowed to say about Kurds and what i m not {#lang_emotions_you_crazy}

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