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Is “show-off” less of a sin than alcohol?
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30.       amnariel
138 posts
 29 Oct 2008 Wed 01:50 pm

I´m giving up on meat, in general, for religious reasons

31.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 04:35 pm

My post was aimed at extravagant behavior.

 Is “show-off” less of a sin than alcohol? Does the Koran not remind Muslims in every other verse to avoid “going to extremes?” Are some teachings of the Koran holy and the others less holy?

 

Did Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoðan not explain the source of his multi-million dollar wealth by the jewelry gifted to his son during the little boy’s circumcision ceremony? I do not want to imagine the ceremonial set-up that merrily produced millions of dollars in gifts to a little boy.

  That was perfectly in line with Mr. Erdoðan’s son’s wedding at the Dolmabahçe Palace, which was guarded by 4,000 policemen and supported by four ambulances and a fire brigade, plus a fancy broadcast on state television. Only a Sultan could have had a wedding like that; minus the TV broadcast.

  That was also perfectly in line with Foreign Minister Ali Babacan’s little son’s circumcision ceremony which was no less extravagant than an Ottoman Sultan’s merry ritual: clowns, a marquee, teeterboard and a treasure box so that generous guests could leave their precious gifts.  

  And all those were perfectly in line with President Abdullah Gül’s daughter’s wedding ceremony which was no less modest than any one of the “observant Muslim” traditions of celebrating “a la orient.”

32.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 04:38 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

My post was aimed at extravagant behavior.

 Is “show-off” less of a sin than alcohol? Does the Koran not remind Muslims in every other verse to avoid “going to extremes?” Are some teachings of the Koran holy and the others less holy?

 

 I think the point is - there is hyprocrisy in all religions (except Pastafarianism).  Why are you just singling out once instance and using Islam as your example?

 

This all seems quite tame compared to the extravagance and wealth of the Vatican

 

AENIGMA

“Our very young and intelligent sister from UK Yilgun

 

33.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 04:43 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

This all seems quite tame compared to the extravagance and wealth of the Vatican

 

AENIGMA

“Our very young and intelligent sister from UK Yilgun

 You are just jealous that there are no fabulous shines in Pastafarianism!  Except of course for the wonderful macaroni art that can be seen in kindergarten classes everywhere!{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

34.       MrX67
2540 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 04:52 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

My post was aimed at extravagant behavior.

 Is “show-off” less of a sin than alcohol? Does the Koran not remind Muslims in every other verse to avoid “going to extremes?” Are some teachings of the Koran holy and the others less holy?

 

Did Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoðan not explain the source of his multi-million dollar wealth by the jewelry gifted to his son during the little boy’s circumcision ceremony? I do not want to imagine the ceremonial set-up that merrily produced millions of dollars in gifts to a little boy.

  That was perfectly in line with Mr. Erdoðan’s son’s wedding at the Dolmabahçe Palace, which was guarded by 4,000 policemen and supported by four ambulances and a fire brigade, plus a fancy broadcast on state television. Only a Sultan could have had a wedding like that; minus the TV broadcast.

  That was also perfectly in line with Foreign Minister Ali Babacan’s little son’s circumcision ceremony which was no less extravagant than an Ottoman Sultan’s merry ritual: clowns, a marquee, teeterboard and a treasure box so that generous guests could leave their precious gifts.  

  And all those were perfectly in line with President Abdullah Gül’s daughter’s wedding ceremony which was no less modest than any one of the “observant Muslim” traditions of celebrating “a la orient.”

 

 to say and to be so different things dear Rose,and pity our country full with two faced politicans and people may be more then everywhere.And we coming from a ´´komþusu açken tok yatan bizden deðildir´´culture,but this sirs using millions´s innocent  ( and a bit blind) beliefs  so good.(

35.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 04:56 pm

 

Quoting MrX67

 to say and to be so different things dear Rose,and pity our country full with two faced politicans and people may be more then everywhere.And we coming from a ´´komþusu açken tok yatan bizden deðildir´´culture,but this sirs using millions´s innocent  ( and a bit blind) beliefs  so good.(

 

 MrX, I am not sure that people need to be influence by "two faced politicians" to be greedy.  People seem to be able to do that all on their own.  You faith in the overt goodness of mankind is touching but completely unrealistic.

36.       MrX67
2540 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 05:00 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 MrX, I am not sure that people need to be influence by "two faced politicians" to be greedy.  People seem to be able to do that all on their own.  You faith in the overt goodness of mankind is touching but completely unrealistic.

 

 i know dear Liz,may be living in dreams,but honest i love itanyway ty for you kind warning{#lang_emotions_flowers}

37.       teaschip
3870 posts
 31 Oct 2008 Fri 08:58 pm

 

Quoting tamikidakika

it`s all about hypocrisy. Why do you think people in Turkey ignore the religious rules not to have sex without marriage or not to get alcohol, but follow the rule not to eat pork? It`s because, living without getting alcohol or sex is dull, but there are so many substitutes for pork(pork is a crappy and unhealthy food anyway).

 

It`s the same for Christians too. How many Christians follow the rule not to have sex before marriage? It`s the same rule in Christianity.

 

 It´s not about hypocrisy, rather we are all HUMAN...no one is perfect.  You face temptation everyday and hopfully your faith & morals are strong enough to resist it.  However, realistically people can be weak so therefore temptation isn´t easily avoided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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