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10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 03:16 pm

 

Quoting bydand

Seems to be yet another Turkey bashing thread. {#lang_emotions_neutral} 

 

 What´s bashing about this? I love Turkey, and I´d very much like to stay informed and be able to talk about anything going on there, because only that way things can change. If we stay mouth-dead and pretend we all just read the ´happy newspaper´, nothing will change because nobody will notice something is wrong. But apart from that, I don´t see the bashing side here really.

11.       bydand
755 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 04:10 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 What´s bashing about this? I love Turkey, and I´d very much like to stay informed and be able to talk about anything going on there, because only that way things can change. If we stay mouth-dead and pretend we all just read the ´happy newspaper´, nothing will change because nobody will notice something is wrong. But apart from that, I don´t see the bashing side here really.

 

 Because she has specifically singled out Turkey when it is arguably worse in many other countries. We have a high profile case in Britain at the moment where phone tapping could be involved.

12.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 04:14 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 Because she has specifically singled out Turkey when it is arguably worse in many other countries. We have a high profile case in Britain at the moment where phone tapping could be involved.

 

 Well this is a website about Turkey right And after posting this, posts immediately came up to say it is actually worse in other countries (including my own).

13.       bydand
755 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 04:29 pm

 

Quoting Deli_kizin

 Well this is a website about Turkey right And after posting this, posts immediately came up to say it is actually worse in other countries (including my own).

 

 It was the original post I was refering to as it implied it could jeopardize Turkeys entry into Europe when the practice is widespread across many countries.

14.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:08 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 It was the original post I was refering to as it implied it could jeopardize Turkeys entry into Europe when the practice is widespread across many countries.

 

 Well that´s the problem with EU I suppose! I wouldn´t be surprised if this jeopardized Turkey´s position, even though we are guilty as well.

15.       Waseem_UK
174 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:26 pm

The problem is...is EU qualified to accept the Giant, Turkiye! Turkiye, I think is over qualified, in some ways for the EU. Especially when compared to some of the recent EU accquisitions.

16.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:42 pm

 

Quoting Waseem_UK

The problem is...is EU qualified to accept the Giant, Turkiye! Turkiye, I think is over qualified, in some ways for the EU. Especially when compared to some of the recent EU accquisitions.

 

 Yes maybe you are right Waseem.  Your post will be treated with great respect - it is considered completely acceptable to "EU bash" but entirely unacceptable to "Turkey bash" on this site

17.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:46 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Yes maybe you are right Waseem.  Your post will be treated with great respect - it is considered completely acceptable to "EU bash" but entirely unacceptable to "Turkey bash" on this site

 

 It took some time, but finally you understand!

18.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:48 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 It took some time, but finally you understand!

 

 Ouuuhhh yes

 

Incidently, I think (as Catwoman mentioned) it is very important to know the source of this article.  For all we can tell, it may be Roswitha´s own essay (although I somehow doubt it!).

 

If this article is from a Turkish media source, then it carries a different significance than if it is from a US or UK source.

19.       Trudy
7887 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 07:56 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Ouuuhhh yes

 

Incidently, I think (as Catwoman mentioned) it is very important to know the source of this article.  For all we can tell, it may be Roswitha´s own essay (although I somehow doubt it!).

 

If this article is from a Turkish media source, then it carries a different significance than if it is from a US or UK source.

 

Googled it: it´s from Thenewanatolian, a Turkish newspaper. Article is from June 2008 and not completely quoted in the first post.

20.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 29 Nov 2008 Sat 08:10 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

Googled it: it´s from Thenewanatolian, a Turkish newspaper. Article is from June 2008 and not completely quoted in the first post.

 

Thanks Trudy.  So it is from a Turkish newspaper (who have not checked their facts very well!) and is criticising it´s own government?

 

As there is not a single post which supports the title of the thread, I can´t really see what the problem is...

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