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Personal apology to A|rmenians for 1915 events
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:29 pm |
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i guess its too late to apologize coz the ones who are responsible have gone or at least most of them.
I think this might be considered as a necessary step for us (Turks) as well as Armenians..
We somehow have to come into terms with our past and clear our concience on the issues..
We have been LIED enough.
We need the truth..
(May be, at some stage we will need to change some of the names of our streets as well, as the names those murderers are still all over the place)
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:30 pm |
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Hehehe I will make a personal apology to everyone in the UK for the cold weather today. Of course... it is not actually my fault, and we don´t know actually IF I can be responsible, but it makes me feel intellectual and open minded by doing it 
Remind you of anyone? 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:36 pm |
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Hehehe I will make a personal apology to everyone in the UK for the cold weather today. Of course... it is not actually my fault, and we don´t know actually IF I can be responsible, but it makes me feel intellectual and open minded by doing it
Remind you of anyone?
hey, i loved this post. bravo bravo 
im sure we all understand your need to share your feelings about the cold weather.
and im 100% sure that you are more than intellectual
and i should follow your example and apologise to everyone for every problem in the world that im not aware of.
yes, it reminds me something, but im afraid of saying it because i could get called for that a christian fascist.
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:39 pm |
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and i should follow your example and apologise to everyone for every problem in the world that im not aware of.
I am sorry, but I can´t forgive you. In fact, I will go on and on about this for years. Maybe one day my children will demand an apology from your children and then all will be ok, but until then..... 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:41 pm |
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They were the ones who used to live in the east among their Turkish neighbours in peace.
The were the people who were called Millet-i Sadýka (people to be relied on ) that their Turkish neighbours could rely on them and leave their goods to them when they were even in Mekkah (Mekke) to become pilgrims.
Then one day (during the independence war), some whistled to their ears;"We´re about to divide the Empire into many parts,if you want to have lands for you,too come and join us".
These words;the proposals affected some of the armenians and they joined the enemies of the empire unexpectedly.
This trick of the enemies worked on very well on the armenians living there(some foresaw the coming future,didn´t want to be on the side of the deceived and left the lands soon before the conflict began.
The rest took part on the side of the enemies and then they attacked the Turkish villagers;the Turkish villagers tried to defend themselves but the deceived neighbours of them until that time,now they were together with the other enemies;using their weapons and attacking afterwards,without thinking of men,women and babies-the babies.
It was not a genocide.There happened a war in that region just because of the deceived groups who were directed by the others.
Well...years passed after the independence war.Still,there are the ones living in Turkey using their own names or the Turkish names;businessmen,tailors,singers,actors...live in peace here.
When it comes to apologise,the side who has to apologize (if it is needed ) are the grandchildren of the deceived !An apology is not needed at the real,just their feeling shame of being the supporters of them is enough.
http://www.taraf.com.tr/makale/3101.htm
Please read
A passage from the link:
Bu alenen “Evet, yaptýk, haklýydýk, gerekirse gene yaparýz” demektir... Bu ahlak ve insanlýk düþmaný tutumu alan tüm Türklerden utanýyorum! Benim gibi Türk olan her insanýn da utanmasý gerektiðini düþünüyorum...
This is saying ´yes we did it, we were right, if necessary we will do it again". I am ashamed of the TURKS who take this enemy of morals and enemy of humanity attitude. I am thinking that every single Turks should be ashamed too..
Enjoy your reading
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:44 pm |
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I am sorry, but I can´t forgive you. In fact, I will go on and on about this for years. Maybe one day my children will demand an apology from your children and then all will be ok, but until then.....
OMG, i didnt know you from this side. you scare me  your turkishness pops out from time to time unexpectedly  i think even armegon will be more able to forgive than you 
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| 36. |
15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:45 pm |
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I am sure Armegon will never forgive you either
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:51 pm |
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i guess its too late to apologize coz the ones who are responsible have gone or at least most of them.
hanan, its never too late to say sorry, never. saying sorry cleans your conscience, after this your burden will be 1000000 lighter. at least it will be helpful to you even if those who were killed dont exist anymore.
and if anyone in the future comes and accuses you for this and that, there always will be someone else who would say "they have apologised-the end of story".
a few years ago mr, kwasniewski apologised for jedwabne. i rememer many people didnt want to admit and protested against this guesture finding in it a global jewish conspiracy. however, it was one of the most wonderful thing was done.
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 02:55 pm |
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hanan, its never too late to say sorry, never. saying sorry cleans your conscience, after this your burden will be 1000000 lighter. at least it will be helpful to you even if those who were killed dont exist anymore.
and if anyone in the future comes and accuses you for this and that, there always will be someone else who would say "they have apologised-the end of story".
a few years ago mr, kwasniewski apologised for jedwabne. i rememer many people didnt want to admit and protested against this guesture finding in it a global jewish conspiracy. however, it was one of the most wonderful thing was done.
It is all a bunch of crap, sorry! Do you expect your children to apologise for things YOU did (or maybe didn´t do), after you are dead?
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:02 pm |
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It is all a bunch of crap, sorry! Do you expect your children to apologise for things YOU did (or maybe didn´t do), after you are dead?
yes, i do.
i personally think, if my ancestors did anything wrong to anyone in the past, im ready to write an article in every well-known paper to say that im deeply sorry for what my ancestors did to you.
btw, so are you now saying that you are not sorry for some part of british history? you wouldnt say sorry to some countries?
germans did apologise for their war crimes, and todays generation too. since when you suddenly against apologising, i remember you had a different idea on this?
since when you use the word crap?
your comment is too dodgy 
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15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:02 pm |
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It is all a bunch of crap, sorry! Do you expect your children to apologise for things YOU did (or maybe didn´t do), after you are dead?
You can call this as crap.. It is your idea.
I am proud of the people who opened that website and doing what they believe is right..
Only opposition so far coming from Turkey´s BNP version MHP which still insists that our ancesters can not be murderers.  ..
BTW.. Do you know that those people, if they were British, who opened that website, would be next to you when you were protesting the war against Iraq?
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