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Personal apology to A|rmenians for 1915 events
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70.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:56 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

You are becoming more and more fascistic aenigma..

 

 hairy, are you out of your mind? {#lang_emotions_wtf}

control yourself, and dont get that small.

71.       femmeous
2642 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 03:58 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

One wonders why you actually come here. 

 

 i dont like this sentence.

72.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:04 pm

I am out of this discussion..

73.       amicamia
24 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:22 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

http://www.taraf.com.tr/makale/3101.htm

 

Please read

A passage from the link:

Bu alenen “Evet, yaptýk, haklýydýk, gerekirse gene yaparýz” demektir... Bu ahlak ve insanlýk düþmaný tutumu alan tüm Türklerden utanýyorum! Benim gibi Türk olan her insanýn da utanmasý gerektiðini düþünüyorum...

This is saying ´yes we did it, we were right, if necessary we will do it again". I am ashamed of the TURKS who take this enemy of morals and enemy of humanity attitude. I am thinking that every single Turks should be ashamed too..

Enjoy your reading

 

IT IS SURELY SEEN..You can not find anything to write on your own and quote some opposite views (they have nothing at all) from the net or newspapers.

The things I wrote are completely seen in the history and my own words were used.

Enjoy your time quoting !

 

 

74.       CANLI
5084 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:31 pm

Please keep it to the main topic

We are different people here with different opinions and thoughts,it doesnt gives us any excuse to go on and attack each other for our differences in opinions.

Ý believe we are mature than that.

Ýf you have any personal issue with other member take it via pm´s and keep it out of forum.

Thank you

75.       teaschip
3870 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 04:42 pm

It appears my original post here has disappeared. {#lang_emotions_unsure} Again, I think this is great news and hopefully this is the first step towards the healing process for some people. 

76.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 05:32 pm

 

Quoting amicamia

They were the ones who used to live in the east among their Turkish neighbours in peace.

The were the people who were called Millet-i Sadýka (people to be relied on ) that their Turkish neighbours could rely on them and leave their goods to them when they were even in Mekkah (Mekke) to become pilgrims.

 

Then one day (during the independence war), some whistled to their ears;"We´re about to divide the Empire into many parts,if you want to have lands for you,too come and join us".

These words;the proposals affected some of the armenians and they joined the enemies of the empire unexpectedly.

This trick of the enemies worked on very well on the armenians living there(some foresaw the coming future,didn´t want to be on the side of the deceived and left the lands soon before the conflict began.

The rest took part on the side of the enemies and then they attacked the Turkish villagers;the Turkish villagers tried to defend themselves but the deceived neighbours of them until that time,now they were together with the other enemies;using their weapons and attacking afterwards,without thinking of men,women and babies-the babies.

It was not a genocide.There happened a war in that region just because of the deceived groups who were directed by the others.

Well...years passed after the independence war.Still,there are the ones living in Turkey using their own names or the Turkish names;businessmen,tailors,singers,actors...live in peace here.

When it comes to apologise,the side who has to apologize (if it is needed ) are the grandchildren of the deceived !An apology is not needed at the real,just their feeling shame of being the supporters of them is enough.

 

Thank you.

77.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 05:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

http://www.taraf.com.tr/makale/3101.htm

 

Please read

A passage from the link:

Bu alenen “Evet, yaptýk, haklýydýk, gerekirse gene yaparýz” demektir... Bu ahlak ve insanlýk düþmaný tutumu alan tüm Türklerden utanýyorum! Benim gibi Türk olan her insanýn da utanmasý gerektiðini düþünüyorum...

This is saying ´yes we did it, we were right, if necessary we will do it again". I am ashamed of the TURKS who take this enemy of morals and enemy of humanity attitude. If there is something to be ashamed of, which I doubt, then most of it belongs to Kurds. The area those tragedies (I would like to call it this way to be safe) took place was/is mostly populated by KurdsI am thinking that every single Turks should be ashamed too..

Enjoy your reading

 

 

78.       catwoman
8933 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 08:47 pm

 

Quoting CANLI

Please keep it to the main topic

We are different people here with different opinions and thoughts,it doesnt gives us any excuse to go on and attack each other for our differences in opinions.

Ý believe we are mature than that.

Ýf you have any personal issue with other member take it via pm´s and keep it out of forum.

Thank you

 

+100000000000000000

79.       armegon
1872 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 10:27 pm

 

Quoting amicamia

They were the ones who used to live in the east among their Turkish neighbours in peace.

The were the people who were called Millet-i Sadýka (people to be relied on ) that their Turkish neighbours could rely on them and leave their goods to them when they were even  in Mekkah (Mekke) to become pilgrims.

 

Then one day (during the independence war), some whistled to their ears;"We´re about to divide the  Empire into many parts,if you want to have lands for you,too come and join us".

These words;the proposals affected some of the armenians and they joined the enemies of the empire unexpectedly.

This trick of the enemies worked on very well on the armenians living there(some foresaw the coming future,didn´t want to be on the side of the deceived and left the lands soon before the conflict began.

The rest took part on the side of the enemies and then they attacked the Turkish villagers;the Turkish villagers tried to defend themselves but the deceived neighbours of them until that time,now they were together with the other enemies;using their weapons and attacking afterwards,without thinking of men,women and babies-the babies.

It was not a genocide.There happened a war in that region just because of the deceived groups who were directed by the others.

Well...years passed after the independence war.Still,there are the ones living in Turkey using their own names or the Turkish names;businessmen,tailors,singers,actors...live in peace here.

When it comes to apologise,the side who has to apologize (if it is needed ) are the grandchildren of the deceived !An apology is not needed at the real,just their feeling shame of being the supporters of them is enough.

 

 Good brief history, thanks too{#lang_emotions_flowers}

80.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 15 Dec 2008 Mon 11:15 pm

If theH wants to apology personally for something, that means he is guilty of this thing. maybe his grandfather was a member of the gang of Enver and Cemal, and that`s why he feels guilty. Just think about our so called liberals aka new york intellectuals, one of the most prominent one I can recall now is Hasan Cemal. Guess who is Hasan Cemal? He is the grandson of Cemal Pasa!

 

we have nothing to apaologize for, and if that is his personal apology for something, we don`t need to hear about it. he can do that without advertising it here.

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