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20.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 28 Dec 2008 Sun 11:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

well..it seemed to me you were..

(I will blame that blonde Aenigma for that  lol lol

 

 Blame me for WHAT you hairy fur-ball?

21.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 28 Dec 2008 Sun 11:35 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 NO!  She will be flogged for being so weak!!!  DD I suggest you re-think your burkas now

 

{#lang_emotions_cry}

22.       femmeous
2642 posts
 28 Dec 2008 Sun 11:59 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

lol

Do you think it is all about my ´hair related charm´? {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 im a 100% sure. hes very very jealous of your hair

23.       femmeous
2642 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 12:07 am

BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Textbook: Missionaries ´destroy´ national values

Lesson for 13-year-olds warns of Christians´ ´subversive´ aims

A newly published textbook that´s mandatory for 13-year-olds to study tells how Christian missionaries´ want to "break down the unity of a country by destroying the national and cultural values," according to a worldwide Christian ministry.

The warning comes from Christian Solidarity Worldwide, which said the textbook for Turkish students also warns that missionaries use "natural disasters, such as earthquakes, to serve their own interests."

Then the book advises students how they can recognize the "subversive" intentions and activities of the missionaries.

 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84450

 

24.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 12:48 am

 

Quoting femmeous

BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
Textbook: Missionaries ´destroy´ national values

Lesson for 13-year-olds warns of Christians´ ´subversive´ aims

A newly published textbook that´s mandatory for 13-year-olds to study tells how Christian missionaries´ want to "break down the unity of a country by destroying the national and cultural values," according to a worldwide Christian ministry.

The warning comes from Christian Solidarity Worldwide, which said the textbook for Turkish students also warns that missionaries use "natural disasters, such as earthquakes, to serve their own interests."

Then the book advises students how they can recognize the "subversive" intentions and activities of the missionaries.

 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84450

 

 This explains a lot.  I had noticed myself "missionary" activities are more unpopular with secular Turks than muslims..IMHO/  I personally see no point in trying to change anybodies mind about Relgious convictions that (that are done peacefully) in Turkey or anywhere else.

25.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 29 Dec 2008 Mon 01:09 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

Until end of the cold war, nationalism  in Turkey was hand in hand with the west (actually more than that: their legs were touching under the table; they were heart to heart ) . 

What happened so that saliva from nationalists becomes this acidic when the word ´west´ being mentioned?

Lets look at the recent events a bit closely................................

 

The ruling power managed quite well in 1960 and 1970s, with the left and in 1980s and 1990s with the Kurds. Although it took two coup d´etats to deal with the left and then a continues military regime to deal with the Kurds they were kind of successful and they always had the western support (specially about the struggle with the left..West has  always been sympathetic to Kurds but being a Nato ally, being an only reliable power in the middle east etc prevented the west from condemming anything harshly)..............................

 

..That is why these anti western rethorics became a de facto chewing gum for some of the people in Turkey.......................................

 

The ruling class started to look ways to close AKP by accusing them with their ´secret agenda´-sheria-, .....

I have a Turkish friend who talks about AKP and "secret agenda, etc" just like this. 

 

I really appreciate this piece Handsom.  Couple of points.  Americans who were involved in cold well still appreciate Turkeys part with us (USA).  Americans don´t know much about Kurdish people.   When Saddam Hussein was killing them they got press during the First Bush Presidency as heros because they fought against Saddam, but now Saddam is gone and I would say no cares anymore (about Kurds).   Kurdish people in US have no well financed lobby like the Armenians, who have many prominent Senators and congressmen "in their pocket" because they donate huge amounts of money.

 

The Irak war has gone so badly that we doubt what we believed before.  And PKK is understood to be a terrorist group, if people know about it.

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