Awwwwwww ok sweetie - had enough?   Gone to read the Quran?

I haven´t shed a tear, why would I? It is not my problem that Muslims allow helping only Muslims but gladly accept help from infidels.

It may depend on the family but mine doesn´t bribe and I wouldn´t like it to. If it is your experience to pay people to get into your family then it´s your thing. I can´t imagine paying someone to marry into the family

 Very true. Lately I had a discussion about being a blood or organ donor and the Muslims in the group said they won´t give blood or be an organ donor because of the chance it will go to non-Muslims but when they need it themselves, they said they would be happy to accept!

 Yes dear

 you bed infidel

 so many killer posts lately

Where have you gotten that Muslims only allow helping Muslims? I certainly did not say that. I did say that preference would be given to Muslims. There is a difference.

An example I can give is what I actually saw at the Frankfurt airport during the 911 disaster. I was one of the many thousands of passengers stranded there. Germans came to the airport to look for people to take home with them. One German woman offered to take a European woman home with her, but there was an Afghan Muslim woman who was pregnant also stranded who obviously could use a better accomodation than an airport chair. When the woman was asked to take the Afghan woman, she turned her back and looked for another Europan. What was that? I always wondered how that Afghan woman made out. I felt so sorry for her.

How did you get to paying someone to marry into the family? Boy you sure can twist things. Give and take is how things are done. You want this, I have this...you negeotiate.

Do you think during a airplane crash, Muslims are going to check to see who is the Muslim and who is not? How could anyone tell anyway? Wearing a turban does not tell what is in the heart.

I think it would better be called your interpretation of my analogy.........at some point your new son is going to want something, or want to do something you will not want him to do. What are you going to do? Will you beat him (I´m sure you would not do that), reason with him, (hard to do with a child) or offer a more interesting desirable (bribe) alternative?

Have you ever heard of the concept of triage? Every culture uses a triage process based on whatever criteria deemed important. That´s the way it is. Life is full of difficult decisions that seem very cruel.

I sincerley hope I am never in a situation to have to make a decision that could impact on someone´s life. In reality, we do everyday. What do we purchase? How do we dispose of our waste? What do we do with our disposable income?  All these decisions, and others,  impact on the lives of countless others.

 mmmm, AE, you werent watching the news at that time it seems !

People, Egyptian sent from their own money to aid people in Gaza.

We dont say we have sent this or that, we dont show off, we dont say they are our people then gave them our back !

Actually we dont have much to show off with, we sent materials mostly from our own poor personal income to help them

We donate through The Egyptian Red Crescent and that was from the first day of the war.

And many other social services through all the country and the Unions too

That was the people, not the government, and also the Doctors who went there, they went on their own, they have signed papers saying they are responsible on what will become to them there.

Ýt was war as you know, and Ýsrael was bombing hospitals, so the goverments didnt want to send them there, they sat at Rafah gate and they refused to leave except to Gaza.

And you are asking me if we donate price of a pack of cigarettes or some phone credit ??!!!

Outside ?!

Saudi Arabia donated 1000 million$ in Kuwait Economic Summit 21/1/2009, Quatar 250 Million, Kuwait another 250 million

That was only in that Summit .

Seems you werent following the news or else you wouldnt have asked about that.

Beside, killing someone then offering aid, i wouldnt call that help actually, making a statement is more like it 

 The answer here is very much clear AE, even its in your post too.

As you see, they are talking about Zakah.

Zakah is one of the 5 concept of Ýslam, where Muslims are OBLÝGED to give part of their own money to the poor.

That part is set, determined with some calculations, and conditions too.

The people who receive Zakah are also categorised, not every muslim fit to receive Zakah.

But also only Muslims receive Zakah no one else.

As alameda said, i maybe responsible of supporting member of the family, but not responsible to support neighbour for example.

But that doesnt mean, i cant help neighbour from other money than Zakah.

Meaning, if this year i should be giving 500 $ as Zakah ´after calculations´, im OBLÝGED to give that sum this year and not a penny less, and also must be giving it through that year not a day after.

The people who would receive that money as i said have some conditions but first they MUST be muslims.

Ýf there is a crises, and i want to donate money to help people ´non muslims or muslims doesnt matter´ , i can do that of course with any sum of money i wish to help, BUT other than that 500$ Zakah

Ýn Ýslam that called Sadakah, and Sadakah doesnt have condition except helping people, any people.

The people in your post wanted to take from the Zakah money and help people not under the Zakah conditions, and want to consider it Zakah...it wont be Zakah, it will be Sadakah, and they can do it of course, but that also would mean they still have to pay their Zakah.

Ý hope i was clear in my explanation.

Ýts something like internal social system, made so muslims help one another in the society.

So we pay it according to its conditions, and if we want to pay sadakah, we also can do it and we will be rewarded for that too.