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Helicopter Crash in Turkey
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40.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 02:00 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 Are you supporting the swearings because it was not against you? 

Well you did SUPPORT earlier..

 

 I do not support swearing....but I do recognize provocatation and I find it abhorrent. This is not about me, however much you might like to divert the conversation.

 

It is about people who have only in a matter of hours died and having some respect.....even if you don´t like them.

41.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 02:43 am

Why should anyone be expected to show respect for someone who just died if they didn´t respect what they did in their lives?  If a person did not live a respectful life then they did not EARN respect...period.  Demanding that someone to show respect just because someone has passed away is the epitome of hypocricy!  

42.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 03:19 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Why should anyone be expected to show respect for someone who just died if they didn´t respect what they did in their lives?  If a person did not live a respectful life then they did not EARN respect...period.  Demanding that someone to show respect just because someone has passed away is the epitome of hypocricy!  

 

Well girleegirl....obviously.....we have a difference of opinion. I disagree with you.....but I respect your right to have a different opinion....and you didn´t even have to earn that right. ....after you show yourself...that respect may diminish....

........but I respect death and those who mourn.

43.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 03:22 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Why should anyone be expected to show respect for someone who just died if they didn´t respect what they did in their lives?  If a person did not live a respectful life then they did not EARN respect...period.  Demanding that someone to show respect just because someone has passed away is the epitome of hypocricy!  

 

 GG, you comment but it is invalid as because Muhsin Yazýcýoglu was elected in the last elections, as an independent diplomat! this means from that region he took over more than %10 percent votes!

 

I think he was someone who was respected!

 

Due to the definitions given in internet! Especially in vikipedia those are filled by any person! You cant imagine how silly informations i find about people!

 

The questions should be asked about this event is not the character of the dead people here... BUT how come they cant find the wreckage!!! please wake up you all!!!!

44.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 03:34 am

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 GG, you comment but it is invalid as because Muhsin Yazýcýoglu was elected in the last elections, as an independent diplomat! this means from that region he took over more than %10 percent votes!

I think he was someone who was respected!

The questions should be asked about this event is not the character of the dead people here... BUT how come they cant find the wreckage!!! please wake up you all!!!!

 

They still have not found the wreckage???? It is hard to find news about this here.  So..the man who made the phone call has not been found either?  You are quite right....why has the wreckage not been found.



Edited (3/27/2009) by alameda [edit]

45.       catwoman
8933 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 03:50 am

 

Quoting girleegirl

Why should anyone be expected to show respect for someone who just died if they didn´t respect what they did in their lives?  If a person did not live a respectful life then they did not EARN respect...period.  Demanding that someone to show respect just because someone has passed away is the epitome of hypocricy!  

 

I completely agree with you! A person does not deserve respect just because she/he is dead! I don´t know anything about this person (although an ultra nationalist, islamic party does not sound good at all!), so I"m not commenting about him, just in general.

 

I grew up with similar customs of "not talking badly about the dead" and honestly, I think it´s a load of crap. People still think badly of them, and just lie to one another only because they don´t want to be talked badly about themselves after they die. That´s so much easier then actually analyzing their behavior and owning up to it! It´s hypocrisy and lies, and it´s disgusting.

46.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 04:19 am

 

Quoting SuiGeneris

 

 

 GG, you comment but it is invalid as because Muhsin Yazýcýoglu was elected in the last elections, as an independent diplomat! this means from that region he took over more than %10 percent votes!

 

I think he was someone who was respected!

 

Due to the definitions given in internet! Especially in vikipedia those are filled by any person! You cant imagine how silly informations i find about people!

 

The questions should be asked about this event is not the character of the dead people here... BUT how come they cant find the wreckage!!! please wake up you all!!!!

 

 No my comment is not invalid.  I don´t know a thing about this particular man.  That is not my point. 

I didn´t say that people can´t have respect for him....I said that someone who didn´t respect him when he was alive would be a hypocrite to feign respect because of his death.  

47.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 04:24 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Well girleegirl....obviously.....we have a difference of opinion. I disagree with you.....but I respect your right to have a different opinion....and you didn´t even have to earn that right. ....after you show yourself...that respect may diminish....

........but I respect death and those who mourn.

 

 

Well alameda.....your respect me and my rights really has no impact on me whatsoever. 

 

Yes....YOU respect death and those who morun and that is YOUR right....but you are trying to tell handsom that he has to do the same as you.   Calling him abhorrent for not doing so (and yet again you don´t say anything about crude attacks except to say they were provoked).  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

48.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:23 am

It doesn´t seem as if they found the wreckage yet....

 

Search efforts fail to locate crashed BBP leader’s chopper

 

Why don´t you try reading my actual comment again:

 

"I do not support swearing....but I do recognize provocatation and I find it abhorrent. This is not about me, however much you might like to divert the conversation."

 

I was very careful to not call him abhorent....or tell him what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

Well alameda.....your respect me and my rights really has no impact on me whatsoever. 

 

Yes....YOU respect death and those who morun and that is YOUR right....but you are trying to tell handsom that he has to do the same as you.   Calling him abhorrent for not doing so (and yet again you don´t say anything about crude attacks except to say they were provoked).  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 

 

49.       DaveT
70 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 06:31 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

They still have not found the wreckage???? It is hard to find news about this here.  So..the man who made the phone call has not been found either?  You are quite right....why has the wreckage not been found.

It can be very difficult to find a downed plane in rough terrain, especially in the bad weather being described. Sometimes it takes months. The uncertainty and dread must be tearing the family members to pieces.

 

I feel very badly about the victims of this accident. In my mind there is a constant image of the poor reporter with a broken leg who is freezing to death while waiting for help. I know nothing of the politics or history of the people  in this crash and I am sad for them all. I don´t understand those who feel no sympathy or compassion for victims of an  accident like this.

 

There was a plane crash in my city last Sunday: no survivors. Seven adults killed, seven children killed. Three families wiped out. Perhaps this has clouded my thinking on the subject.

 

50.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 27 Mar 2009 Fri 07:04 am

 

Quoting alameda

Why don´t you try reading my actual comment again:

 

"I do not support swearing....but I do recognize provocatation and I find it abhorrent. This is not about me, however much you might like to divert the conversation."

 

I was very careful to not call him abhorent....or tell him what to do.

 

Ok, so you didn´t call him abhorrent.....but let´s just see what you did call him....

 

Quoting alameda

 

 ........I´ll repeat...."in my opinion, your talking so bad about someone who has just passed away is much worse.............it´s abominable."

 

and I´ll add rather cowardly under the circumstances.

 

and I might add that you provoked the response. You remind me of one of those guys who taunt a bull, then when it attacks...acts all innocent and cry, it attacked me.

 

 

 Ahhhh yes....abominable and cowardly.....so much better!  Much more careful of you!!!   {#emotions_dlg.noway}

 

I really have to wonder about the kind of person thinks it is more acceptable to curse and make vile comments to someone who is right here than it is to talk about someone who has died!!  {#emotions_dlg.you_crazy}

 



Edited (3/27/2009) by girleegirl [forgot a word]

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