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41 killed in attack on wedding day in Turkey
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10.       Nisreen
1413 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 12:57 pm

That´s so horrible !!

It´s a shame

11.       raindrops
267 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 02:05 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 The groom was a distant cousin of the bride.

 

couldnt they marry bec of being distant cousins?

 

we all should take a minute of silence and sorrow ...

12.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 05:03 pm

Yes, you all  are right, like a family feud, reminding me of Sicily, Nothing to do with Kurdish problem.

 

blood feuds like in Sicily



Edited (5/5/2009) by Roswitha

13.       DaveT
70 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 06:13 pm

 

Quoting alamed

So sad, in particular when I remember the joyous wedding parties I have attended. 

 

Me too. The weddings I attended in Turkey were such happy affairs. My sympathies to the victims and to their survivors.

 

14.       cicero
12 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 06:31 pm

 

Quoting Roswitha

Now we wonder if we should visit Turkey again, a bad image for Turkey indeed

 

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2009/05/200954213113152601.html

 

it can happen every country , may be not same but similar with this

yes it is a bad image for Turkey but it is not a reason not to visit

 

if it was happened in your country , would you leave there?

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15.       joooe86
296 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 10:22 pm

the people who did this cant be human



Edited (5/5/2009) by joooe86

16.       Chantal
587 posts
 05 May 2009 Tue 10:47 pm

 

Quoting cicero

 

 

it can happen every country , may be not same but similar with this

yes it is a bad image for Turkey but it is not a reason not to visit

 

if it was happened in your country , would you leave there?

 

 +1 I dont think there is any place in the world you can still visit if you consider what has happened there. Maybe you should move to an uninhabited island then?!

17.       Queent
183 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 12:06 am

sad sad sad

may Allah bless their souls and have mercy on them

18.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 04:09 pm

More about blood feuds

 

http://www.gendercide.org/case_honour.html

19.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 04:17 pm

Blood feuds, gun violence plague Turkey´s southeast

 

BILGE, Turkey (Reuters) - "I wish fire upon the houses of those who set the fire in my house," said 75-year-old Sultan Celebi. "They ruined us all. I want for them the biggest punishment that is possible."

Celebi´s words, uttered after an armed attack on a village wedding robbed her of four children, three daughters-in-law and one grandchild, amply illustrated the depth and bitterness of bloodfeuds, clan rivalries and vendettas in largely Kurdish southeastern Turkey; an unending cycle of violence and revenge.

Forty-four people were killed Monday in one of the worst attacks involving civilians in Turkey´s modern history. The massacre, perpetrated by masked men with automatic rifles and hand grenades, must put pressure on Ankara to address the root-causes of instability in the region, long a hindrance to Turkey´s European Union membership quest.

The mass killing was, according to local residents, the culmination of a long family feud.

Sixteen women, including the bride, and six children were killed in Monday´s attack in Bilge, a village of a few hundred people in the Turkey´s conservative heartland.

While the scale of Monday´s killing has shocked this Muslim country of 70 million, experts say dozens are killed in rural Turkey every year in "blood for blood" vendettas passed from generations over land disputes, grazing rights or matters of family honor.

Experts say the problem, which is more acute in the Kurdish southeast, is aggravated by unequal land distribution, power struggles in a feudal-style clan system and a decision by the government to set up well-armed village militias against Kurdish rebels.

"The modern...republic (of Turkey) was supposed to create a nation of citizens, but it has betrayed its ideals in the southeast," said Dogu Ergil, an academic and expert on Kurds.

"This is a combination of tribalism, love for guns and tradition gone awfully wrong," Ergil told Reuters.

Local residents said the feud within the extended Celebi family in Bilge dated back to a land conflict in the mid-1990s.

The attack, which witnesses said was carried out by several gunmen, came after the father decided to marry off his daughter to a man in the nearby city of Diyarbakir, passing over a groom from one part of the quarrelling Celebi family.

REFORM PRESSURE

There are some 60,000 state-sponsored village guards throughout Turkey´s southeast, who fight alongside state security forces against Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels. Critics say the region is awash with guns.

Gareth Jenkins, an Istanbul-based analyst, said village guards have used their weapons many times to settle blood feuds.

Human rights groups have long called on the government to disband the village guards, whom they say are an unaccountable force; but disbanding them is not that easy. 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5443G520090505

20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 06:13 pm

 

Human rights groups have long called on the government to disband the village guards, whom they say are an unaccountable force; but disbanding them is not that easy. 

There is something totally weird in this incident. It does not tally with the local traditions.

 

1. While the son of any girl´s uncle has the first right to claim her hand in marriage by local traditions, this mass murder by a rejected suitor is not normal, even by Kurdish standards.

2. Local traditions would not normally allow shooting people in prayers.

3. Family feuds are between men only. Women are never killed intentionally or indiscriminately.

 

The whole thing looks organized, with only a partial knowledge of local traditions.. Somebody wants the local village guards disbanded quick.

 



Edited (5/6/2009) by AlphaF
Edited (5/6/2009) by AlphaF

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