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41 killed in attack on wedding day in Turkey
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20.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 06:13 pm

 

Human rights groups have long called on the government to disband the village guards, whom they say are an unaccountable force; but disbanding them is not that easy. 

There is something totally weird in this incident. It does not tally with the local traditions.

 

1. While the son of any girl´s uncle has the first right to claim her hand in marriage by local traditions, this mass murder by a rejected suitor is not normal, even by Kurdish standards.

2. Local traditions would not normally allow shooting people in prayers.

3. Family feuds are between men only. Women are never killed intentionally or indiscriminately.

 

The whole thing looks organized, with only a partial knowledge of local traditions.. Somebody wants the local village guards disbanded quick.

 



Edited (5/6/2009) by AlphaF
Edited (5/6/2009) by AlphaF

21.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 May 2009 Wed 08:23 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

There is something totally weird in this incident. It does not tally with the local traditions.

 

1. While the son of any girl´s uncle has the first right to claim her hand in marriage by local traditions, this mass murder by a rejected suitor is not normal, even by Kurdish standards.

2. Local traditions would not normally allow shooting people in prayers.

3. Family feuds are between men only. Women are never killed intentionally or indiscriminately.

 

The whole thing looks organized, with only a partial knowledge of local traditions.. Somebody wants the local village guards disbanded quick.

 

 I agree with you here AlphaF....as I said in my initial statement:

 

"There is a lot more to this story, I´m sure. "

22.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 07 May 2009 Thu 01:49 am

It´s a very tragic event. I know that there´s a feudal structure in the southeast region of Turchia. Therefore it´s a reason for this massacre. I´m sending my condolences to the relatives of the victims.

 

Maybe most of aged ladies in this site won´t come to Turchia in order to protect their wrinkle butts. Maybe the gigolo market, servant market, estate-agency market (especially in Halicarnassos) are closed for them.

 

what a pity!

23.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 May 2009 Thu 10:52 am

 

Quoting Rocco Siffredi

Maybe most of aged ladies in this site won´t come to Turchia in order to protect their wrinkle butts. Maybe the gigolo market, servant market, estate-agency market (especially in Halicarnassos) are closed for them.

 

what a pity!

 

Thank you for your conern over TC´s wrinkled butted ladies but what about the plump butted ones?   



Edited (5/7/2009) by libralady

24.       MarioninTurkey
6124 posts
 07 May 2009 Thu 11:34 am

Some good analysis by Andy Finkel, covering all of the key issues:

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/yazarDetay.do?haberno=174544

25.       libralady
5152 posts
 07 May 2009 Thu 01:05 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

Some good analysis by Andy Finkel, covering all of the key issues:

 

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/yazarDetay.do?haberno=174544

 

 Yes, an interesting article about this dispicable act. 

26.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 07 May 2009 Thu 01:08 pm

What Andy forgets to mention is that the first indiscriminate shooting during a wedding ceremony, recorded in the area (again on Kurds, but in Iraq) was by the invading American soldiers. Americans, later, apologised and said they had mistaken the wedding party with a terrorist riot.

 

Regarding the incident in Turkey, the second stage of the tragedy is now unfolding; the innocent part of the assasins´  family and close relatives are now desparately trying to flee from the area, well aware that their own days are numbered if they stick around much longer.



Edited (5/7/2009) by AlphaF
Edited (5/7/2009) by AlphaF

27.       TheVineyards
11 posts
 10 May 2009 Sun 12:34 am

Poor people.

28.       Uzun_Hava
449 posts
 10 May 2009 Sun 07:46 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

There is something totally weird in this incident. It does not tally with the local traditions.

 

1. While the son of any girl´s uncle has the first right to claim her hand in marriage by local traditions, this mass murder by a rejected suitor is not normal, even by Kurdish standards.

2. Local traditions would not normally allow shooting people in prayers.

3. Family feuds are between men only. Women are never killed intentionally or indiscriminately.

 

The whole thing looks organized, with only a partial knowledge of local traditions.. Somebody wants the local village guards disbanded quick.

 

 I agree.  There is an (american) English expression.   "It has a strange smell to it".  I think it is not "what it seems".

 

29.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 12 May 2009 Tue 05:46 pm

Watch this short documentary. If you still can not figure out why local people seem to be at each others´ throats, in places like Iraq and Turkia....You must be dumb..Alcoholics

 

http://www.vidivodo.com/259494/amerikanin-dehset-planlari

 

NOTE: Try copy&paste, if your link does not work



Edited (5/12/2009) by AlphaF

30.       teaschip
3870 posts
 12 May 2009 Tue 08:27 pm

Quote:

1. While the son of any girl´s uncle has the first right to claim her hand in marriage by local traditions, this mass murder by a rejected suitor is not normal, even by Kurdish standards.

 

This seems so backwards to me.   Sorry, I understand traditions but "claim" and "right" sounds like your purchasing a piece of property.  Those poor girls!Confused

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