http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/86646/turkish-man-tortured-to-death-in-belgian-prison.html

He had a quarrel with a traffic police, was taken into custody and beaten to death by wardens: he was only 31 years old.

The administration tried to hide the murder, but other witnessing inmates were in a revolt. Turkish Government amd many civil rights groups are pushing Belgium Justice now, for fairplay.

Where are the little mice of our group who never miss a chance to quote TARAF, when a junkie stabs a tourist in Istanbul?

Dude, this is already being discussed..........

http://turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_42552

Zbrct forgot to start this topic i think...

that thread is hijacked by the granny gang.  so a new one will be fine.

I fear you might be fighting a lone battle here Alpha.  You mentioned the Taraf... that is the paper thehandsome was reading when he mentioned the missing document in his last Turkish army conspiracy column.

For them, I have a very democratic proposal...I propose a nationwide referandum with following questions asked to all citizens of the Turkish Republic.

1- Do you define yourself as Turkish or Kurdish?

2. Let us give the Kurds the cities where they have majority of population. Yes, or no?

3. Let us let us kick all separatist Kurds out of Turkia. Yes, or no?

Let us do what the majority of citizens want. Viva democracy !

democracy is not the dictate of the majority. that`s actually the way how the akp fascists want to define democracy, but a referendum within the borders of kurdish populated cities would be more relevant. I`m all for a independent kurdistan. what are the benefits of the desert of south east to Turkey? Nothing. What are the costs? Hundreds of billions of dollars every single year, thousands of lives, terrorism, smuggling etc...

But I don`t think the government would want a seperation as the Kurds are the major source of islamic votes.  if there hadn`t been the Kurdish votes, could akp have came into power?

and what`s the relevance of this to the thread?

Why you dont argue on MSN ? Or anywhere else ? As i read there are forbidden discutions about kurdish minority on this site...

 Since when does there have to be relevance?  Besides....it´s his thread.  You can always just go back to your own.

 Better than by one immature lonely boy who wants to be so much more than he will ever be.

well this site belongs to catwoman the feminist dictator, what can I say more.

By the way...are you Kurdish ?

hohohoho no, you definitely don`t know me.

 Ã definitely dont know you...but after reading your posts you seem very much like  Cynicmystic.... What do you think Girleegirl ?

 Try tamikidakika´s posts for comparing.....

L.Ý.R. told me. But even if they are not the same..seems to go on the same way...

low and desparate insult, shows who can´t take criticism here.

go do some housework cw.

Sry, but not in my life would i be able to understand how would anyone accept or even think about giving up willingly !!! part of his land to anyone or for any reason even if it was desert !

Ý´d call it conspiracy not democracy !

If you are right, you will get more NO replies to question (2)  ....What is the problem?

Viva democracy !

 4. Do we admit  the genocide and apologize to the Armenian people?

There never was any genocide, but I shall be happy to apologize if it shall please you.

I will start the apologizing process at once and in alfabethical order.

When can you send the first couple of hundred A-Armenians to be apologized?

PS: They should not come wearing WWI  French or Russian Army uniforms.