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Mustafa Celaleddin Pasa-Konstanty Borzęcki
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1.       birdy
245 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 12:56 pm

Mustafa Celaleddin Paþa-Konstanty Borzęcki - a greatgrandfather of recognized Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet is considered one of the fathers of modern Turkish patriotism.

A Pole who converted into islam took part in all wars led by Turkey since 1852 serving his new country as a general.

He was an author of a book in French"Les Turcs-anciens et modernes claiming that Turks played vital and civilizing role in the world history.Big smile

more

 

http://www.odevarsivi.com/dosya.asp?islem=gor&dosya_no=144745

2.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 04:15 pm

Seems Dobrawskis are not that bad after all

3.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 22 Aug 2009 Sat 08:50 pm

 

Quoting birdy

Mustafa Celaleddin Paþa-Konstanty Borzęcki - a greatgrandfather of recognized Turkish poet Nazim Hikmet is considered one of the fathers of modern Turkish patriotism.

A Pole who converted into islam took part in all wars led by Turkey since 1852 serving his new country as a general.

He was an author of a book in French"Les Turcs-anciens et modernes claiming that Turks played vital and civilizing role in the world history.Big smile

more

 

http://www.odevarsivi.com/dosya.asp?islem=gor&dosya_no=144745

 

A Dobrowski leading the Ottoman army?Scared

 

That explains a lot about the destruction of Ottoman Empire.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)



Edited (8/22/2009) by mhsn supertitiz

4.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 02:58 am

 

Quoting mhsn supertitiz

 

 

A Dobrowski leading the Ottoman army?Scared

 

That explains a lot about the destruction of Ottoman Empire.<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

 

lol Them Christians installed a rat in the Ottoman Army to weaken it from within lol What a cunning conspiracy Mueha(12x)

5.       birdy
245 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 04:16 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

lol Them Christians installed a rat in the Ottoman Army to weaken it from within lol What a cunning conspiracy Mueha(12x)

 

 <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)hard to digest supertitiz?btw*-your Dobrowski origin is more than clearly visible although you have been trying  hard to disguise itWinkNinja

6.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 23 Aug 2009 Sun 04:47 pm

There is nothing to digest (may be alot to digest for "Johnny Turkish" ) here because Ottomani armies were  consisted of christian converts mainly..

All janissaries until certain time, were Christians..All their generals/pashas were christians too.

Sirbians, Albenians, Bulgarians, Greeks -especially in the navy- you name it..

When you think  along that line , when they decided to take muslims into janissaries, the army never won a substantial battle again..

 



Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom
Edited (8/23/2009) by thehandsom

7.       birdy
245 posts
 26 Aug 2009 Wed 10:40 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

There is nothing to digest (may be alot to digest for "Johnny Turkish" ) here because Ottomani armies were  consisted of christian converts mainly..

All janissaries until certain time, were Christians..All their generals/pashas were christians too.

Sirbians, Albenians, Bulgarians, Greeks -especially in the navy- you name it..

When you think  along that line , when they decided to take muslims into janissaries, the army never won a substantial battle again..

 

 is it a part of a lecture?Unsureor you have just dropped in to call the tune?

Since when janissaries Had been in the navy?I was taught that it was infantry force.

you seem to have special likeness in janissaries-theh ,so brush up your knowledge on them<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>just a promptBig smile

 



Edited (8/26/2009) by birdy [just woke up,still sleepy making mistakes]

8.       _AE_
677 posts
 26 Aug 2009 Wed 10:41 am

 Laugh at

Quoting birdy

 

 is it a part of a lecture?Unsureor you have just dropped in to call the tune?

 

 I think it´s just another word salad! lollollol

9.       _AE_
677 posts
 26 Aug 2009 Wed 10:42 am

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

you seem to have special likeness in janissaries-theh

 

 I wonder what TheJanissary will have to say about that!

10.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 26 Aug 2009 Wed 10:50 am

 

Quoting birdy

 

 is it a part of a lecture?Unsureor you have just dropped in to call the tune?

Since when janissaries where in the navy?I was taught that it was infantry force.

you seem to have special likeness in janissaries-theh ,so brush up your knowledge on them<img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'>just a promptBig smile

 

 

I dont think liking or not liking them is not the question here.

They were the slave army of the time. 

And maybe yes, it could have been a part of lecture

But I never said ´the navy had janissaries´!!

If you check the most famous Ottoman navy commanders, you will find that most of them were christian converts..Greeks specially..

 

So it is best, if you read abit more Ms multiple personality lol lol 



Edited (8/26/2009) by thehandsom

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