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60.       _AE_
677 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:52 pm

duplicate post

 



Edited (9/2/2009) by _AE_

61.       _AE_
677 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:52 pm

I don´t know why I apologised for going offtopic - TheHandsom and Melek who keep telling me I am going off topic, were discussing genocide on this thread, NOT american presidents!!! lollollol



Edited (9/2/2009) by _AE_

62.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:54 pm

Well, according to some historians on this site, genocide and American presidents do go together!!Big smile

63.       Melek74
1506 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:57 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

I don´t know why I apologised for going offtopic - TheHandsom and Melek who keep telling me I am going off topic, were discussing genocide on this tread, NOT american presidents!!! lollollol

 

I wasn´t discussing anything, I just made a sarcastic jab at Tami. Big smile

 



Edited (9/2/2009) by Melek74

64.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:57 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

 

We already had this discussion and you already asked me that here. My opinions have not changed since. Unlike you I don´t experience fluctuations in personality.

 

 

AE said...."Strange - these are the same people who voted Bush back into power with a majority at the previous election to this "

 

Well there have been a lot of talk about that...."Was the 2004 Election Stolen?"

 

AE said...."Actually OUR opinion does matter - it is what democracy is all about or should I say SUPPOSED TO BE about."

..........it seems many have forgotten thatFlowers..........but we also need to be engaged...which means educating ourselves about issues.......Really, it´s sad many do not have the resources to educate themselves...then too many are just too lazy.  Like, It´s not an accident things are so complicated....like mortgage contracts...the fine print...

65.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 04:57 pm

Basically going around and accusing USA and UK  in Iraq with  genocide is abit baseless..

It will bring more harm to you as a person and to what you are trying to say..

 

 

66.       Melek74
1506 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 05:01 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Basically going around and accusing USA and UK  in Iraq with  genocide is abit baseless..

It will bring more harm to you as a person and to what you are trying to say..

 

 

 

Agreed. There are specific criteria by which genocide is defined established by the United Nations after World War II. Calling any military conflict a genocide is indicative of the lack of understanding of what genocide is.

 

And for AE and Tami - the above does NOT indicate I approve of any military conflict.

67.       _AE_
677 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 05:02 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Basically going around and accusing USA and UK  in Iraq with  genocide is abit baseless..

It will bring more harm to you as a person and to what you are trying to say..

 

 

 

 None of my posts were saying that (as I made clear) - I can´t speak for others though - and frankly can understand to some degree why they find the UK and USA as poor judges or what is "genocide" bearing in mind the colonial history of the UK.

68.       _AE_
677 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 05:05 pm

Quoting Melek74

 

 

Agreed. There are specific criteria by which genocide is defined established by the United Nations after World War II. Calling any military conflict a genocide is indicative of the lack of understanding of what genocide is.

 

And for AE and Tami - the above does NOT indicate I approve of any military conflict.

 

The US senete should have followed those rules before declaring the Armenian killings as genocide eh?

 

69.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 05:07 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

People should really read the definition of genocide lol lol 

 

 I believe vineyards sited a websters definition.....and a very good post, might I add.

70.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Sep 2009 Wed 05:10 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

 

 

Agreed. There are specific criteria by which genocide is defined established by the United Nations after World War II. Calling any military conflict a genocide is indicative of the lack of understanding of what genocide is.

 

And for AE and Tami - the above does NOT indicate I approve of any military conflict.

 

Exactly..

It is a bit ´thin´ to go around and scream your head ´it is a genocide´.. 

There are certain criterias even they are not agreed upon by everybody..However Vineyards explained the definition quite briefly up there..

But as you said.. That is not approval of the invasion of Iraq.. 

That is where people are jumping into WRONG conclusion!!

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