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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:39 am |
Big difference, the others were not dragged over there as slaves...
Ok, the ones dragged over as slaves..then should be entitled to African American. I think that´s what I said initially.
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:40 am |
Why let an initial banal question get in the way of a good discussion?!
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:45 am |
It is what it is.....around here people are Latino, Chicano, Salvadoreno...or whatever they are - American. If they are Asian...they are Chinese-American, Japanese-American, Korean-American...or what ever they are....and it they are mixed they are that. Have you heard the term Bi-Racial, or Tri-Racial...or Multi-Racial?
I´m not always politically correct Melek.. I just think the whole African American title is just non-sense if you have NEVER even lived in Africa, I don´t think the title of African American is appropriate. I´t like me saying I´m Irish-German American. Another category we have here is Asians.but who is really an Asian? Isn´t India partially in Asia...Then we went to caucasions..but it appeared to be a struggle for people to spell. So to simplify..Your either American, black, other race or Mexican...and yes I would lump all Spanish speaking countries in this group.
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:46 am |
So to simplify..Your either American, black, other race or Mexican...and yes I would lump all Spanish speaking countries in this group.
Actually no, those who were born in the US, are ALL American, whether they are black or white or hispanic. I sometimes hate it when people specifically call black people "African-American", as if those people did not belong in the same country. And we know that sometimes when the name "African american" is used, it´s there to inform of all the stereotypes around this person. I think that it only needs to be mentioned if the ethnicity is of importance in a particular situation.
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:47 am |
Big difference, the others were not dragged over there as slaves...
..........no....some of them were invaded....IOW they were already here....like Amerindians. FWIW...most Mexicans are at least part Amerindian............and at least a third of the current US was part of Mexico.
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 01:59 am |
Actually no, those who were born in the US, are ALL American, whether they are black or white or hispanic. I sometimes hate it when people specifically call black people "African-American", as if those people did not belong in the same country. And we know that sometimes when the name "African american" is used, it´s there to inform of all the stereotypes around this person. I think that it only needs to be mentioned if the ethnicity is of importance in a particular situation.
Hey I totally agree with this...but try telling that to an African American who insists they are !
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 02:16 am |
Hey I totally agree with this...but try telling that to an African American who insists they are !
Maybe after hundreds of years of oppression they deserve a little "humouring" from you all americans
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 03:04 am |
Maybe after hundreds of years of oppression they deserve a little "humouring" from you all americans
For how many generations more? And what about those who came to the US AFTER slavery was abolished? Do the Americans need to pamper them too?
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 03:54 am |
Maybe after hundreds of years of oppression they deserve a little "humouring" from you all americans
Should we include those brought to America by English colonists in the tally? Or are we starting to count the hundres of years of oppression since 1776? Are you going to do your own penance for the slave trade in the British Empire or do you want us to do the humoring for you as well?
Edited (9/5/2009) by Melek74
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 04:09 am |
Actually no, those who were born in the US, are ALL American, whether they are black or white or hispanic. I sometimes hate it when people specifically call black people "African-American", as if those people did not belong in the same country. And we know that sometimes when the name "African american" is used, it´s there to inform of all the stereotypes around this person. I think that it only needs to be mentioned if the ethnicity is of importance in a particular situation.
I happen to agree. Especially since there seems to be a bit of a dislike between black people from USA and immigrants from Africa or the Carribean. It doesn´t seem fair to lump them all together.
Diclaimer:
The above is not meant as representative of the opinion of all Blacks in the USA and is based solely on a hearsay from a friend who immigrated from the Ivory Coast.
Edited (9/5/2009) by Melek74
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05 Sep 2009 Sat 05:13 am |
I happen to agree. Especially since there seems to be a bit of a dislike between black people from USA and immigrants from Africa or the Carribean. It doesn´t seem fair to lump them all together.
Diclaimer:
The above is not meant as representative of the opinion of all Blacks in the USA and is based solely on a hearsay from a friend who immigrated from the Ivory Coast.
Actually this is an accurate observation......in general....the slave trade was a collaborative venture between Africans and Europeans. In some Africal tribes, a twin would be done away with....being sold into slavery was a profitable way of dealing with it. Some were prisoners of war......or... there were many ways to become a slave.
I think the way these black African slaves were treated was unique. As a more easily identified group, they were easier to target. Any group that was easy to identify as "another" was treated in a similar manner....but the difference is the brutality of the treatment of those enslaved. It was unique in it´s cruelty. Those black humans were dehumanized, treated like animals or worse. It´s hard to determine how many in the International community profited from their labor...even today....labor that was unpaid and done with great suffering.
Read the story of Solomon Northrup......
I think it all boils down to the fact that humans are in essense a social animal...aka...a pack, flock or herd animal. It boils down to "us and them"......who is a member.."in good standing"....of the pack? Large flocks get winnowed down...to many smaller...more manageable ones.
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