...and Xena the warrior queen has spoken maybe you should sometimes just bite your tongue and control your ego - gives you a little time to think before placing your hands on a keyboard that way you would at least avoid pointless show-off comments you constantly add in forums if you think you are better than anyone else here - in knowing turkish, for example (and yes i know you LEARNED it, too, just like everybody else, you´re not a native speaker - and that makes it more pointless to show off in front of other learners) - then by all means be better, nobody has ever questioned that but why you feel like you HAVE TO prove yourself to others all the time? let others to learn, too? can´t you just be a FRIEND? why you need to try to be a royal leader? learners don´t need to be ruled, they need to be thought.

Wow! This site has everything!

Ego ? Show off ? Prove myself ? Leader ? Its so funny because this is sooo not ME, Ý can just laugh about it. Somebody seems to be jealous my knowledge is more than his  (´al sana´ my EGO)

Just one more thing i want to say is that i am not here to make friends, I am here to help and to improve my grammer.

Now can we close the subject, cause its starting to get hem bored hemde childish here. (and no de ´hem-hemde´ isnt for showing off that i know so much  i just happen to not know the english word for it)

This is the last thing i will say about it because its starting to get really TO childish.

Well, I agree with Melike1.  I am a native speaker too, and when I want to help with the translations, I try to do the ones which nobody has done or the translation which is wrong or not understandable. 

But when I see a good translation, I avoid to add my own translation to give approval that it is a good one indeed.  Because using a different word does not necessarily make the translation better. 

And I don´t see anything wrong with Melike´s translation in this one, except she used the tenses differently, but it is perfectly correct Turkish.

This discussion often goes on in the translation form.  As far as Gulbil is concerned, he does generally explain any difference in his translation by pm but I agree it would be more useful posted on the forum.  We learners need to know if corrections are actually being made or just a different version is being given.  

But really, I agree with you Merih - if native speakers (or people with good Turkish) see that a translation is perfectly adequate (either way, t/e or e/t) - it should just be left without numerous attempts to improve it?   I think seeing half a dozen ways of saying the same thing is very confusing when you´re learning!   I could jump in on most things posted in English and say ´no - this is better´ but as long as it is understood isn´t that enough?

(Melike1 is actually not a native speaker  - but her Turkish is obviously good enough to make you think she is!)

 Thank you !