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Namus derdi bir derde benzemiyor
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04 May 2006 Thu 12:59 pm |
Namus derdi bir derde benzemiyor.What is the translation?? Thanks!
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04 May 2006 Thu 01:17 pm |
Quoting mamamia: Namus derdi bir derde benzemiyor.What is the translation?? Thanks! |
There isn't a problem/worry, seem like one's honor or reputation problem..
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04 May 2006 Thu 01:49 pm |
Quoting mamamia: Namus derdi bir derde benzemiyor.What is the translation?? Thanks! |
Probably you missed "hiç".
namus derdi hiçbir derde benzemiyor.
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04 May 2006 Thu 03:44 pm |
"Namus derdi başka bir derde benzemiyor." or "Namus derdi hiç bir derde benzemiyor." can be translated as follows:
"A honor problem is not like any other problem."
Translator's Note:
Usually some problematic people make statements like this. "Namus" in this particular phrase not only refers to somebody's own honor but moreover it refers to the honor of people that person is responsible for. In Eastern part of the country we have some problems with non-Turkish ethnical backgrounds. People are killing their female relatives according some traditions related to honor e.g sex usually as it is understood by them. They think a female deserves to be killed for having sexual relationship with somebody without marriage. Another reason for honor killings are divorces. Of course our government is fighting with them but sentences are not enough to prevent honor crimes. Usually the older male members of the family let it done by a younger boy to reduce the jail sentence.
Usually it is the kind of people who are ready to commit a honor crime that would say such a statement that you quoted. It is also usually the most unethical and extremist people who start talking a lot about honor. Honor doesn't need to be mentioned aloud. People will see it in your actions if it is there.
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05 May 2006 Fri 10:00 am |
Thanks very much, I didn't miss anything of the text!
So the translation Roxy gave will be the best I think. Furthermore I want to thank Erdinç for the explanation! What you told fits in the context! I am translating a story about a girl that is gone away from home, after her father beating her and this is what her mother signs!!
Thanks everybody!
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05 May 2006 Fri 10:38 am |
Some time ago there was a honor killing in Germany. A Turkish girl was killed by her brothers. The youngest brother admitted the crime and was continuously telling that he did it alone. The father was not even arrested.
Unfortunately we know that this is not true. According the traditions of extremist Islamists a family commission (aile meclisi) of older male members needs to decide for the killing. The commission includes all adult male members who are relatives at first or second degree e.g. brothers, father, uncles and grandfather.
Unfortunately in the few cases in Germany and in hundreds of cases in Turkia none of the members of these family commissions were prosecuted. They admittedly let the crime done by the youngest boy for reducing the jail sentences.
Our İslamic party which is currently in charge instead fighting back to these traditions tried to intruduce a law for those young killers to reduce their very short jail sentences even more if the killing was a honor killing. They didn't succeed to pass through that law from our parliament but this clearly shows how Islamic politicians think on honor killings.
Unfortunately the extremist Islamic lifestyle consists of a life where brothers are killing their sisters and yet there are still so many supporters of these extremists in our country.
Here is the story of that girl in Germany who was forced by her family to marry a cousin (another sick tradition of conservative lifestyle in Turkia). When she divorced she was killed by her brothers:
"The Whore Lived Like a German"
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05 May 2006 Fri 11:35 am |
Thank you Erdinc for this link.
It's really sick! The whole thing is sick! I will never understand how governments close their eyes to such unfair and horrible crimes. And they are not only closing their eyes, but they are supporting and encouraging those attitudes too.
But how can anyone expect something better, when there are people like Fethullah Gülen who preach that 'The purpose of marriage is not pleasure; rather, it is to ensure the nation's permanency and continuation..'. Where is the respect for the woman here? According to beliefs like this one, a woman is a machine, made to produce babies and obey orders.
I have never been a feminist, so this has nothing to do with that. I ve never been a fanatic christian either. I believe in God, no matter if his name is God, Theos, Allah or Buddah. And I believe that he is fair. Now where is the fairness in this idea huh? And how can a religion EVER support murders and crimes of any kind?
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05 May 2006 Fri 11:57 am |
Quoting sophie: And how can a religion EVER support murders and crimes of any kind? |
When it comes to matters like this, it is always hard to find words that actually capture a meaning.
But your last sentence Sophie, will say what many people on this site think.
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I advice people to watch 'Gegen die Wand'. It's a Turkish/German film which tells the story of such an honor-murder. It has a sad ending, but the story is really breathtaking (in a negative way actually).
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05 May 2006 Fri 01:58 pm |
What a world we live in - sometimes so hard to understand why and how such things can happen :-S
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05 May 2006 Fri 02:29 pm |
Quoting Boop: What a world we live in - sometimes so hard to understand why and how such things can happen :-S |
It's a good thing you do not understand it. And if you are pure-hearted and logical, the harder you will try to understand such things, the less you will understand. So be glad you do not understand..
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